RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Ewok
were normal users. And how many people were just looking at the page but not logged in. Look into coldfusion.runtime.SessionTracker    _   From: Tim Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How to prevent multiple logins How would I go about

RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Burns, John D
o: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins Not sure I get what you mean by lost accidentally.   Adding an onscreen note to the logged-off individual effectively takes care of help desk issues. "You have been logged off because another user has logged on with your credent

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Matt Robertson
Barney Boisvert wrote: > Give them a nice message that says someone else logged in with their > credendials, and they need to do something about it. I think it all depends on what you want from your app.  For some, like a commercial membership site, that would probably be undesirable. Others may

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Matt Robertson
Not sure I get what you mean by lost accidentally.   Adding an onscreen note to the logged-off individual effectively takes care of help desk issues. "You have been logged off because another user has logged on with your credentials at another workstation.  You may wish to call Security, or your

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Barney Boisvert
There's not reason you have to just kill the first user's session. Give them a nice message that says someone else logged in with their credendials, and they need to do something about it. The 2 browser issue isn't an issue if they're instances of the same browser, becaue they'll share a session,

RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Burns, John D
wsers open with the same app. That would personally drive me crazy. John -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins John wrote: > But if you force off the first login,

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Matt Robertson
I wrote: >...For that you need a system that can expressly allow unique >logins... Oops.  I meant 'duplicate logins' --Matt-- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Matt Robertson
John wrote: > But if you force off the first login, that may not be the same user, but > it may be a different user using the same login.  You can't force > someone off while they're in the app. Oh yes you can, and depending on your business rules maybe you should.   If only one user is supposed

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Lawrence Ng
I agree with fuzzylizard. You have to make processing decisions and have mgmt okay it. Let everyone know what may/could/would happen if they login concurrently. Once users know this, it would meet everyone's expectations. This pretty much boils down to communication (a lost skill =) LOL. [Todays T

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Anders Green
At 11:51 AM 10/15/2004, Chris Johnston wrote: >There is no method, that I know of, that is >going to work in such a way that it never inconviencences the user >while at the sametime providing top notch security and preventing >concurrent logins. It is an either-or situation. Yes. It's not a techni

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Chris Johnston
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:37:54 -0400, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about people whose connection changes Ips?  The new NMCI setup for > military bases gives users a pool of Ips that change regularly.  Our > company has 2 external Ips that change as needed, so the guaranteed IP > co

RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Burns, John D
arooq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins At login store the users IP . ... and keep checking the IP against the one stored... on each request.. if it changes... log the current user... out and say.. someone else

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Neil Middleton
It doesn't, apart from via inference as the users realise that if they share their user account they are likely to be forced off the system with no notice. On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:11:42 -0400, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But how will that stop someone else from trying to login as one o

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Umer Farooq
arted the > session...unless they're on the same machine and have a cookie or > something). > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:15 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: How to preven

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Scott Stroz
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >  >  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:42 PM >  >  To: CF-Talk >  >  Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins >  >   >  >  > I think the biggest decision that the person who asked will have to >  >  > make is the bu

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Neil Middleton
n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:42 PM >  To: CF-Talk >  Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins >   >  > I think the biggest decision that the person who asked will have to >  > make is the business logic for when a session that is cu

RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-15 Thread Burns, John D
2004 4:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins > I think the biggest decision that the person who asked will have to > make is the business logic for when a session that is currently logged > in is no longer logged in. The only way that I have seen to do handle t

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Barney Boisvert
No it doesn't, because there's no guarentee that the second logon request will come from the same computer/browser, and therefore use the same sticky.  If I log in from work and my wife tries to log in from home under my account, chances are 1 in N that we'll hit the same server, where N is the siz

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Micha Schopman
>The app structure won't work across a cluster. With sticky sessions it does :) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Matt Robertson
> I think the biggest decision that the person who asked will have to make > is the business logic for when a session that is currently logged in is > no longer logged in. The only way that I have seen to do handle the scenario you are describing is to force off the first login in favor of the se

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Chris Johnston
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:21:45 -0400, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the biggest decision that the person who asked will have to make > is the business logic for when a session that is currently logged in is > no longer logged in.  For instance: > > If User A logs in at 10AM and

RE: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Burns, John D
rted the session...unless they're on the same machine and have a cookie or something). John -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to prevent multiple logins Barney Boisvert wrote: > Ad

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Barney Boisvert
The app structure won't work across a cluster. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:15:06 -0700, Matt Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barney Boisvert wrote: > > Add a two fields to your user table: isLoggedIn and lastAccessDate. > > Or do it in an application structure and save yourself

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Matt Robertson
Barney Boisvert wrote: > Add a two fields to your user table: isLoggedIn and lastAccessDate. Or do it in an application structure and save yourself the db overhead.  I use/maintain a 2d array to show a bunch of stuff as part of a Who's On app.  When a user logs in their user ID is planted in their

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Chris Johnston
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:32:09 -0700, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would I go about preventing multiple logins w/ the same username and > password?  I'm currently using client variables for this.  I tried checking > the data field in CDATA but not having any luck.  If a user does not log o

Re: How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Barney Boisvert
Add a two fields to your user table: isLoggedIn and lastAccessDate. Set the former to true when the user logs in, and update the latter every request.  When you get a login request for the user, only allow it if isLoggedIn is false OR lastAccessDate is more than your session timeout in the past (m

How to prevent multiple logins

2004-10-14 Thread Tim Do
How would I go about preventing multiple logins w/ the same username and password?  I'm currently using client variables for this.  I tried checking the data field in CDATA but not having any luck.  If a user does not log out and just closes the window or the session is timed out, there is still a

Re: How to prevent multiple logins?

2002-09-30 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: How to prevent multiple logins? > How do I prevent multiple users loggin in a a same time using the same > account? > > I'm using session variables to track auth users. > > Thanks. > > Thanh > >

How to prevent multiple logins?

2002-09-30 Thread Thanh Nguyen
How do I prevent multiple users loggin in a a same time using the same account? I'm using session variables to track auth users. Thanks. Thanh __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ