RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-02 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Thanks for all the info. This answered my questions and then some! This list is the greatest. Why can't everything be like CF-Talk! Steve -Original Message- From: OÄuz Demirkapı [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX 7

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-02 Thread Munson, Jacob
I honestly didn't know that. My picture of a perfect Java has now come to a tragic end... Not so fast. Check out Pure Java AWT, as mentioned near the bottom of this Doug Hughes post: http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm?event=viewEntryentryId=29 --- EMF idahopower.com made

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-02 Thread Rick Root
Jordan Michaels wrote: GD is platform-dependent - it's a C library. I suspect this is why Java doesn't include it. Perhaps Coldfusion 8 will include the Java Advanced Imaging Library. That'd be awfully nice. Rick ~|

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Andy Allan
Your license still covers it as it's still 2 physical CPUs. On 01/11/06, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have a really short time frame to provide an answer. We are having a lease roll done to one of our servers.

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Root
DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) wrote: replaced with a machine that has 2 dual core CPUs in it. Does anyone know if that would count as 4 processors, or would it still be 2 because there are only 2 physical cpus on the motherboard? dual core processors still qualify as a single physical cpu.

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Jordan Michaels
Rick Root wrote: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) wrote: replaced with a machine that has 2 dual core CPUs in it. Does anyone know if that would count as 4 processors, or would it still be 2 because there are only 2 physical cpus on the motherboard? dual core processors still qualify as a

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Russ
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question Rick Root wrote: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) wrote: replaced with a machine that has 2 dual core CPUs in it. Does anyone know if that would count as 4 processors, or would it still be 2 because there are only 2 physical cpus on the motherboard

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Root
Jordan Michaels wrote: Has anyone heard if this will change with quad core? What about with Sun's T1 processor? That's got something like 16 cores... Sounds like a freakin' mainframe! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Munson, Jacob
Check the licensing agreement... I believe it's per physical processor, so you're even allowed to run multiple virtual machines each with a copy of cf Wow. I wonder if that applies to hosting too. If I buy one copy of CF, I could host multiple VPS accounts on one machine with 'free' CF 7

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Watts
Wow. I wonder if that applies to hosting too. If I buy one copy of CF, I could host multiple VPS accounts on one machine with 'free' CF 7 for each? I know you wouldn't get far with Windows (which requires, what 1GB of ram per VM?), but in Linux you'd make a killing. It's my

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Munson, Jacob
It's my understanding that it applies to physical processors, period - hosting or no hosting. Good to know, Dave, thanks. Your guest OS is not going to be the limiting factor, here. It will be CF, and the amount of memory you want to allocate to that. I disagree. If you don't install

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Watts
I disagree. If you don't install x-windows and turn off unnecessary running services, Linux can run with a LOT less RAM than Windows. Considering that the minimum memory requirements to run CF on Linux or Windows is 512MB, I don't think you'll find that it makes much of a difference when

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Munson, Jacob
Considering that the minimum memory requirements to run CF on Linux or Windows is 512MB, I don't think you'll find that it makes much of a difference when you're trying to get 4 or 5 VMs on an ESX server. What's that from, the sys reqs? If it truly is that much I'd agree. But I'll bet you

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Munson, Jacob
But you understand this server stuff a lot better than I do Dave. I'm just saying that from my experience, and what I have heard from professionals that run hosting companies, it's a lot cheaper to run a Linux box, partially because you can squish a lot more sites on one box. In response

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Watts
What's that from, the sys reqs? If it truly is that much I'd agree. Yeah, it's from the Adobe system requirements. But in practice, for production servers, it tends to be significantly higher. But I'll bet you don't really need that much. I'm just running a developer server locally here,

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Jordan Michaels
Munson, Jacob wrote: Check the licensing agreement... I believe it's per physical processor, so you're even allowed to run multiple virtual machines each with a copy of cf Wow. I wonder if that applies to hosting too. If I buy one copy of CF, I could host multiple VPS accounts on one

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Munson, Jacob
CFMX7 is a memory hog. We have to specially tweak it to get it to run stable on our 256 MB VPS's. Even then, if you do anything that's slightly memory intensive, we will recommend you get something bigger then a basic VPS. So, unless you're doing dumb things (things like huge text processing

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Root
Dave Watts wrote: Yeah, it's from the Adobe system requirements. But in practice, for production servers, it tends to be significantly higher. No doubt. Like Jordan said, you *CAN* run it on a 256MB VPS with some tweaks ... but I wouldn't try to run anything more than a single, low

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Russ
(anything other then a bare install is probably impossible). Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question Dave Watts wrote: Yeah, it's from the Adobe system

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Jordan Michaels
Munson, Jacob wrote: CFMX7 is a memory hog. We have to specially tweak it to get it to run stable on our 256 MB VPS's. Even then, if you do anything that's slightly memory intensive, we will recommend you get something bigger then a basic VPS. So, unless you're doing dumb things (things like

RE: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Watts
I would assume it's similar on Windows... but when do you ever run Windows without a GUI huh? It's pretty rare in my experience, but Windows Server 2003 does this, if you want. You could run previous versions of Windows (NT, 2000) without video cards, using the embedded toolkit. But since most

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Jordan Michaels
Dave Watts wrote: I would assume it's similar on Windows... but when do you ever run Windows without a GUI huh? It's pretty rare in my experience, but Windows Server 2003 does this, if you want. You could run previous versions of Windows (NT, 2000) without video cards, using the embedded

Re: CFMX 7 Licensing question

2006-11-01 Thread Oğuz Demirkapı
I have installed BlueDragon onto one of the Server4you Linux VPS which has 256 MB Ram without any problem. If you plan to use VPS, I would also recommend to consider a Linux based solution. But nowadays dedicated server prices are also acceptable. You can find a Linux dedicated server around