RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
The only way to really measure the performance of your application is with load testing tools. Simply looking at the time it takes to process a single request is generally not that useful. However, an execution time above 250ms is just plain slow. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: James

Re: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread James Sleeman
- Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: RE: Finer grain performance indicators > The only way to really measure the performance of your application i

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Webapper
James, everything in this sort of thing is relative, relative to both what you are trying to achieve and why. What I mean by this is for instance do you already have performance issues in an app and if so in comparison to what? I don't think the number of fuses you are using makes things harder,

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
> I disagree, load testing comes after you have performance tuned the > application for single requests, the execution times will point you to > areas > of code that need improvement, or optimization, load testing can help > point > you to bottle necks exosed when the throughput is much higher tha

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> we all know about the Enable Performance Monitoring flag > in the CF debug settings, it throws out some rough > information about the processing time of each template > used the the request. Well, actually, that's a different setting. The "Show Detailed Processing Time Breakdown" setting sho

Re: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
Interesting discussion ... does anyone have any recommendations of good load testing tools ... I am not sure if this is correct to say this (if it matters), but I am obviously interested in load testing CF Apps. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector Commerce Builder

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Depends on your budget. Are you looking to spend nothing, a few hundred dollars, or several thousand? -Matt > -Original Message- > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:34 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Finer grain perform

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> Interesting discussion ... does anyone have any > recommendations of good load testing tools ... I am > not sure if this is correct to say this (if it matters), > but I am obviously interested in load testing CF Apps. Here are some decent, free ones: http://www.opensta.org/ http://webtool.rt

Re: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
nday, May 05, 2002 9:34 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Finer grain performance indicators > > > > Interesting discussion ... does anyone have any recommendations of > good > > load > > testing tools ... I am not sure if this is correct to say this (i

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Charlie Arehart also setup a free deal with OpenDemand Systems for CFers. Check out http://www.opendemand.com/cf. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:48 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Finer grain perform

Re: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread James Sleeman
>From the good folks at Apache... http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html - Original Message - From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Finer grain performance i

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
See Dave's message than and my response to it. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:47 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Finer grain performance indicators > > At this point it time, seve

Re: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Jeffry Houser
I have played around with Web Performance Trainer. It's great. Also Microsoft has a tool (Web Application Stress Tool or something similar ), which has the ability to create 'test scripts' from log files. What better way than to test your site against the way that people are surfing it? A

RE: Finer grain performance indicators

2002-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> Charlie Arehart also setup a free deal with OpenDemand > Systems for CFers. Check out http://www.opendemand.com/cf. For what it's worth, when we evaluated OpenDemand, the current version wasn't really good enough for our use - and we're not that picky. The price is right, though. Also, I don'