Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-23 Thread Beru
tthew Williams > Geodesic GraFX > www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog > > Mark A Kruger wrote: > > I have a decent post on how to get multi server installed with different > JVM > > settings per instance. > > > > http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2006/4/17/multi

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Williams
rent JVM > settings per instance. > > http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2006/4/17/multiserver > > -Mark > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Managi

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Mark A Kruger
Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Like Dave said. Also note that there are two ways to set up multiple instances: 1) If you install ColdFusion+JRun (install option 2) then you'll see an additional option in CF Admin that lets you create new instances right from with

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
> I had problems with using the CF Enterprise manager piece. > For some reason, it didn't add the cluster buddy to the > {jrunroot}/servers/{instance}/cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/WEB-INF/ > jrun-web.xml file. Since you still need to be knowledgeable > about where all the files and logs reside, I s

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
t; > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:26 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > >> That's good... one license per two CPUs... and one license for >

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
> So each instance is a duplicate of the others? And you > maintain separate databases in each instance, also? Typically, members of a cluster share the same database, since changes made through one cluster member need to be available to the other cluster members. Databases can also be clustered,

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Forta
lled). --- Ben -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > That's good... one license per two CPUs... and one license for > unlimited insta

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
> That's good... one license per two CPUs... and one license > for unlimited instances on two CPUs? Yes, if you've purchased Enterprise. There is no limit in the license to the number of instances you can run under one license. There is, of course, a practical limit, which is primarily dependent

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
Well... so much for that idea... Pro Edition only, here... Rick Well, if you want you can play with it with the free Developer edition, you just install it in the "multi-home" or "j2ee" configuration. Just realize that if you fall in love with the functionality you will need an enterprise lic

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
Good to know... anyway to limit the amount of RAM an instance can affect? I would presume that would be affect by the amount of RAM the jvm setting for the instance was configured to use. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 |

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
ED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:34 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > > You could run the clustering several ways. We use multiple machines with > multiple clusters. Each machine, right now, supports

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
Well... so much for that idea... Pro Edition only, here... Rick -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Just to be clear to anybody who is reading

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
Good to know... anyway to limit the amount of RAM an instance can affect? -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site And, if I understand CF licensing

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
That's good... one license per two CPUs... and one license for unlimited instances on two CPUs? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > A

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
So each instance is a duplicate of the others? And you maintain separate databases in each instance, also? Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
And, if I understand CF licensing issues correctly, I wouldn't have to purchase a license for each instance, right? Rick Nope. We do something similar here, but with multiple IIS websites connected to multiple cf instances, but all on the same box. We isolate our critical applications in the

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
Just to be clear to anybody who is reading this, multiple instances on a box does not require multiple licenses, but it does require the enterprise license. This topic does not apply to the standard license. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, C

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > > Honestly? Because you work for a government agency, and such is the way it > is > ;). And this was the easiest solution to implement within the confines of > our > limitations. We host around 120 sites,

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
> So... other than a workaround for your particular situation, > this is not something that has practical benefits in routine > deployments... ??? Running multiple instances has lots of benefits, some of which have already been mentioned: - more effective use of physical memory - clustering - is

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
> And, if I understand CF licensing issues correctly, I > wouldn't have to purchase a license for each instance, right? No. Each license covers two CPUs on a single machine. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authoriz

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
online? > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:37 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > > I'm sure I'm missing someth

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
"Are multiple instances run just in case one instance "locks up" or something and then the other instance continues processing?" That's the idea as I understand it. I've never tried it, so can't comment much more then to say it is possible. "Is there an in-depth discussion or blog somewhere ab

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
g multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Rick, load balancing and performance for starters. But also, for better use of server resources. For example, I regularly see people running a single ColdFusion instance on a big fat box with 4 or 8 Gig RAM, memory that ColdFusion can't use because of li

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Honestly? Because you work for a government agency, and such is the way it is ;). And this was the easiest solution to implement within the confines of our limitations. We host around 120 sites, and all of them are virtual webs off the main URL. I

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
ROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Rick, How would you make sure a CF application off the root of your web site does not interfere with another application on the same web site? I thought it would be log

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
blog somewhere about this online? Rick -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site I'm sure I'm missing something, but why would you need t

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thank, Andy... -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Multiple instances on a single box will also allow you to get over JVM limitations. On a 32

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Beru
Thanks Matthew! I'll try out your procedure, although I experienced with a very similar one, with mixed results... I am trying to debug the process so that I don't have to restart IIS (production site), and will use your findings about the caveats... On 2/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Forta
c, or scheduled tasks and bots in their own instance, and so on. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Beru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site Rick, How would you make sure a CF applicatio

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Beru
42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > > And so they are now written up. Please be aware that this is unlikely > unsupported by Adobe, and I've already caught grief from the list for this > approach. However, I find that it w

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Andy Allan
Multiple instances on a single box will also allow you to get over JVM limitations. On a 32 bit cpu machine, the most you can give to any one instance is 1.8gb (typically less though). By running multiple instances, you can assign say, 1GB to x instances and then cluster your instances. .. On 22/0

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
007 9:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site > > And so they are now written up. Please be aware that this is unlikely > unsupported by Adobe, and I've already caught grief from the list for this > approach. However, I find that it work

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
I'm sure I'm missing something, but why would you need to set up multiple instances of CF for *one* web site? Rick Poor man's fall over clustering. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Sudoku | | | -

RE: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Faircloth
I'm sure I'm missing something, but why would you need to set up multiple instances of CF for *one* web site? Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Managing multiple CF7 in

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
And so they are now written up. Please be aware that this is unlikely unsupported by Adobe, and I've already caught grief from the list for this approach. However, I find that it works for our situation fairly well, especially with our multiple clusters. The additional information is found http:

Re: Managing multiple CF7 instances to one IIS site

2007-02-22 Thread mailme
Yep, here http://www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/2/3/How-to-set-up-muliple-instances-for-just-one-website. I didn't get a chance to write the caveats yet, but I'll write those up this morning. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog Quoting Beru : > Hello, > > I wo