RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-27 Thread Sebastiaan GMC van Dijk
kly out-of-date and not really worth > the effort put into it... > > > Sebastiaan > > = > So long and thanx 4 all the fish > > ==> Onlinebase.nl > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:04:54 +1000 > > Subject: RE: Number of

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-27 Thread Sebastiaan GMC van Dijk
e.nl > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:04:54 +1000 > Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion > From: andr...@andyscott.id.au > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > > > Ben's is not well maintained at all, as I said there are sites that I know > that run in ColdFusion and

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Gerald Guido
>>.. if AFLAC and Bank of American think it's good enough... Here here! +1 for Quality over Quantity. A couple of sites with name brand recognition worth mentioning CarFax http://www.carfax.com Logitech http://www.logitech.com The guy from Logitech is very vocal about his support of support of

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Rick Root
I'd be quite disappointed if anyone could maintain a "list of coldfusion web sites" and have it be even 10% complete. the metrics of such are not worth anything anyway. If you're trying to justify the use of Coldfusion, don't bother going with a count like that. Ben Forta's list is more suitabl

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Slone
Also try to get hold of the Gartner(?) report. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > You mean like this one? > > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/evangelism_kit/ > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Robert Harrison > wrote: >> >> What I really

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread John M Bliss
> - Compare capabilities to other technologies > - Illustrate an ROI equal to or superior to other technologies Page 12 of http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf_evangelist_kit.pdf > - Document current use on enterprise level systems (i.e., a reliable client list) Page 4 of http://www

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Stewart
You mean like this one? http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/evangelism_kit/ On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Robert Harrison wrote: > > What I really need is a kit from Adobe. The biggest issue with CF is its > reputation. There are too many blogs, etc. out there that say CF is a dying > t

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Robert Harrison
What I really need is a kit from Adobe. The biggest issue with CF is its reputation. There are too many blogs, etc. out there that say CF is a dying technology... even though they are false the lies persist. An IT director to whom we are trying to sell a CF site does his research and finds this in

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Boughton
> To use an analogy, just because trillions of flies eat manure, does > that mean we ought to? Directors don't care if developers eat shit, once they get the job done quicker and cheaper. There's also the quote "Nobody ever got fired for using #IndustryLeader#." Which isn't particularly helpf

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Adrocknaphobia
I don't think we could ever get an accurate number of ColdFusion sites or applications currently running. What I can say with utmost certainty is that there are over 10k unique organizations worldwide actively using ColdFusion. At Adobe, we define _active_ as having purchased ColdFusion 8 or 9. -

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Larry Lyons
> >To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not > in much > >use anymore... > > Well if he's determined, he'll just return with how many sites run on > PHP or .NET or whatever. To use an analogy, just because trillions of flies eat manure, does that mean we ought to?

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Robert Harrison wrote: > To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much > use anymore... Even tho' it just got a brand new updater for the latest release - which only came out recently and now incorporates the industry standard ORM,

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread David McCan
In addition to the Gartner report, there are these remarks on a Gartner blog: http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2009/10/06/i-continue-to-be-impressed-with-coldfusion/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Sandra Clark
I contract at NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) a large number of programs here are written in ColdFusion. I also know that the State Dept, National Institutes of Health, Congress and the Senate uses ColdFusion. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: > > I rece

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Robert Harrison wrote: > I'd love to read it... but Adobe has taken it down. Google "Adobe3112.pdf" http://www.mpeters.de/Adobe3112.pdf -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology no

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Robert Harrison
> http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf > Please read it and decide if this is something that you can use. I'd love to read it... but Adobe has taken it down. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin & Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Wil Genovese
I recently interviewed for a contract job with the Human Development Reports division of the United Nations. They are using ColdFusion. The front end is HTML, but they use AJAX to hit ColdFusion servers to populate content and data. Government at many levels uses ColdFusion. (Yes, I know, citi

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread success
Only reason I can think of is to show the beancounters it's worth upgrading/maintaining instead of moving to .NET/LAMP, ect. --Original Message-- From: Peter Boughton To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com ReplyTo: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Number of site using ColdFusion Sent

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Won Lee
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf Please read it and decide if this is something that you can use. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Boughton
>To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much >use anymore... Well if he's determined, he'll just return with how many sites run on PHP or .NET or whatever. Numbers don't help for CF - what you need to demonstrate is how active and passionate the community is.

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Grant
That might be a tough case to make if your client doesn't already have skin in the game. CF is going to limit them in as many ways as it's going to help them. I have loved CF for 10 years. I'm happily a full time CFer and plan to always be. ~~

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Robert Harrison
> Why do you want one? To respond to an IT director who thinks ColdFusion is dated and not in much use anymore... although this is the same guy that thinks .NET is a programming language. It seems I keep having to make the 'Why ColdFusion' argument again and again. Adobe is very good with the e

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Boughton
>Anyone have a reliable reference to how many sites may are using ColdFusion? Why do you want one? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?ta

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Andrew Scott
to do. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com] > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 3:05 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion > > > No clue about the GotCFM li

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Jason Fisher
Also keep in mind that many, many CF projects are internal-only within their organizations. - Jason "feed me moar web2 loafmeat" From: "Andrew Scott" Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: "cf-talk" Subject: RE: N

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Andy Matthews
ttp://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com] > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 2:53 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion > > > That's because that's individual pages. > >

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Andrew Scott
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com] > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 2:53 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Number of site using ColdFusion > > > That's because that's individual pages. > > Adobe (Ben Forta) has a good reference for sites usin

Re: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Claude Schnéegans
>>If I Google index.cfm and home.cfm the numbers exceed 1 billion. Of course, you are getting all pages like index.cfm?whatever ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Micha

RE: Number of site using ColdFusion

2010-08-25 Thread Andy Matthews
That's because that's individual pages. Adobe (Ben Forta) has a good reference for sites using ColdFusion: http://www.forta.com/cf/using/ Rey Bango manages GotCFM.com which also has a list of sites using CF: http://www.gotcfm.com/thelist.cfm -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mai