RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-16 Thread Ian Skinner
ia Dunning -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:38 PM To: CF-Talk ....Subject: RE: What to do - stagnant job One of those, "Hey, I didn't know we could do that!" kind of moments. -Origi

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-16 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Could we move this OT to CF_Community? Go for it. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting ho

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
Could we move this OT to CF_Community? Michael T. Tangorre wrote: > > > > >>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>I've always given people the same advice: if you're not happy with >>your job, quit. Don't bitch about it, don't expect it will get better, >>just quit. Then go out and

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-16 Thread kola.oyedeji
Donna, There has been some good feedback so far but one thing to always bear in mind is that we are employed for one purpose only - to make money for our employers. What I would recommend is look at ways to add *business value* with your skills. I don't know much about what your employer does bu

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Tyler Fitch
>>-Original Message- > >>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:08 PM > >>To: CF-Talk > >>Subject: Re: What to do - stagnant job > >> > >>On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:23 -0600, Donna French <

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Barney Boisvert
Such an ass. ; ) On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:19:49 -0800, Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good point! > > Even the suckiest of jobs is better than having to spend all day at home > with the kids ;-) > > Spike -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail?

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Spike
Good point! Even the suckiest of jobs is better than having to spend all day at home with the kids ;-) Spike Jim Davis wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:08 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subj

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've always given people the same advice: if you're not happy with > your job, quit. Don't bitch about it, don't expect it will get better, > just quit. Then go out and look for something better. I would say your dissatisfaction has to be somew

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: What to do - stagnant job > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:23 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Jus

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Justin D. Scott
> I would find time to build something that interests you. That's actually how DtDNS (www.dtdns.com) got started six years ago. I started tinkering, and a DNS service popped out. Turned into a nice little side business that pretty much runs itself. -Justin Scott ~

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Mike Kear
It's decades since anyone asked me why I left, or why I was leaving. In my earlier life as a middle manager, I did a lot of hiring and I found it was not productive at all to ask why someone left their last job.Either they'd flat-out lie or I'd be subjected to half an hour of whining about ho

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:32:35 -, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which will turn the question into 'why are you leaving'? Yes, although I think you get "ethics points" for leaving, then looking - so that you can't be accused of comparison shopping or simply trying to push your salary

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Connie DeCinko
Yeah, start experimenting with RIAs. -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: What to do - stagnant job Thought about working on any personal projects? I usually fill time with those. Brainstorming

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Connie DeCinko
I wonder if they are not creating any new work because they fear it'll cost them. Perhaps they feel that new features will mean a new server or more bandwidth or fancier development tools ~| Find out how CFTicket can incre

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Connie DeCinko
One of those, "Hey, I didn't know we could do that!" kind of moments. -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What to do - stagnant job Build a demo of something, then show the pow

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Connie DeCinko
I would find time to build something that interests you. Don't ask before doing, just build it. Then perhaps one day when they do come to you for something new, you will have either a. already built it, or b. have built something so similar that you can whip something up and knock their socks off

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Adrian Lynch
Which will turn the question into 'why are you leaving'? Ade -Original Message- From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 March 2005 23:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What to do - stagnant job In today's job market, I'd recommend following Sean'

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
In other words, make sure your bed is your nicest piece of furniture... -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: What to do - stagnant job On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:23 -0600, Donna French <[EM

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Andy Ousterhout
In today's job market, I'd recommend following Sean's advice with one caveat -- find another job before you leave. Otherwise you will have a gap in your resume that will raise questions about why you left. Andy -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield I quit. Then went and looked for a n

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:23 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wondering (hoping) some of > you out there have been in a similar situation at one time or another, > and what you did to get out of the rut? I quit. Then went and looked for a new job. I've always given people the

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Spike
I would be inclined to agree with Isaac... I was effectively not allowed to work last year because I was waiting for the US government visa approval process which seems to move on a geological timescale. I kept myself busy by increasing my knowledge of Java helping out on the CFEclipse project

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I work for a small company and have for about three years > now, and I'm > either going to have to create something new or find a > blunt object to > mutilate myself with. They are happy with the web app and > what it does > as is, so I'm not getting any demands or direction in the > way of > wri

RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Ian Skinner
Build a demo of something, then show the powers that be the demo and they'll want it, want it now, and want to know why they just can't use the demo! That's pretty much how our entire intranet came into being. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacrament

Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Will Tomlinson
Thought about working on any personal projects? I usually fill time with those. Brainstorming my next big idea. :) Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.hous