Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-06-02 Thread Michael Patti
Much thanks to everyone who's responded to my posting. This community is bar-none the best out there! Tweaking the JVM based on your suggestions has made a world of difference. So far, my CF server has been running without interruption for 1 day, 14 hours, and 22 minutes, and things seem to be

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Dan Crouch wrote: We have a similar server setup on one of our servers. We picked up a copy of SeeFusion and that really helped us track down some slow running pages and queries, and other issues we werent even really aware of. It's either that or an upgrade to CF8,

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
I don't think Enterprise will help you. If you have unstable applications, you have unstable applications. Enterprise would let you cluster multiple servers together, which might let you reduce utilization per instance and potentially eliminate request timeouts from CPU concurrency, but it's not

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Wil Genovese
Actually with the small but growing load you have (small compared to what our servers get) you may be getting to the point where you need to do some JVM tuning. What version JVM are you running and please post the java.args line from the jvm.config file. I can offer plenty of tuning help.

RE: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Kruger
Michael, The level of traffic and usage you describe should be able to be handled easily by a standard server (just ignore Adobe's marketing speak). The question on upgrading is really about why you are experiencing difficulty and what you expect to get out of enterprise. If you have a capacity

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Michael Patti
Thanks Wil, I have actually been doing a fair amount of tuning the JVM. I'll definitely read your article, but in the meanwhile, here's my jvm.config file. Let me know if it seems totally wrong: # # VM configuration # # Where to find JVM, if {java.home}/jre exists then that JVM is used # if

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Wil Genovese
Michael, So far pretty good. Most people I talk to about this haven't even heard about tuning their JVM. My article is not complete yet and your past the parts that I have posted. So here are a few items for your java.args line. Your setting maxpermsize and permsize. Good, but make

RE: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Kruger
Michael, These args are pretty close to what I use on several CF7 standard servers. I don't see anything that jumps out at me. I wonder where you got the idea that Jrun is only using 350 megs of memory however. The args below should put it close to 1200 megs (1.2 gigs). What are you using to

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Michael Patti
Glad to hear I'm not totally off base with my settings. My server has 4 GB physical memory. One thing I'm unsure about: you recommend using '-XX:+UseParallelGC' for garbage collection. I've read a few articles that recommended '-XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC' (which is what I'm using now). Why do

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Wil Genovese
Parallel GC is a different GC algorithm that works best with multi- processors and large (Gb or greater) JVM heaps. We use parallel GC on our servers with zero issues and we're pushing darn near a million page views per day per server. Those switches control the time interval between GC

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Michael Patti
Hi Mark, To clarify about the JRUN memory usage: I'm looking in the Task Manager under the Processes tab. When I sort on the 'Mem Usage' column, jrun.exe is almost always at the top of the list, with at least 350 MB of memory being used at any time. I'm also running FusionReactor to monitor

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Michael Patti
Hi Mark, To clarify about the JRUN memory usage: I'm looking in the Task Manager under the Processes tab. When I sort on the 'Mem Usage' column, jrun.exe is almost always at the top of the list, with at least 350 MB of memory being used at any time. I'm also running FusionReactor to monitor

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Dan Crouch
We have a similar server setup on one of our servers. We picked up a copy of SeeFusion and that really helped us track down some slow running pages and queries, and other issues we werent even really aware of. Dan ~| AdobeĀ®

RE: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Jaime Metcher
Have you tried making the perm size bigger again? With lots of apps, especially if any of them are using frameworks, you'll be using the perm gen pretty heavily. If your app is freezing with plenty of headroom left in the heap, perm gen is certainly a suspect. Jaime -Original Message-

RE: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Kruger
We use both of these GC's under different circumstances. Concurrent mark sweep GC is useful in that it is a little less heavy handed (using a 2 step recovery process that ties to young GC), but either of these GC's will work. Your description of your memory leak problem sounds very much like

Re: When is is time to upgrade to Enterprise Edition?

2008-05-29 Thread James Holmes
Yes, for a 1024 MB heap, the perm size is probably too small (it depends on your code, primarily). The perm size needs to be proportionately increased with the heap; try doubling it to 256 MB. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Jaime Metcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried making the perm