s.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
I'm sure the domain names play into the rankings,
but they can be used deceptively so easily, I don't
know how much weight th
day, April 01, 2005 1:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Hrm, what about wrapping chunks of Text inside divs that have visible =
false?
Has anyone applied that technique aswell (now you all have be curious
again on SOE)
On Apr 1, 2005 12:25 PM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROT
ubject: Re: Search engine question
Search engines try to keep their methodologies close to the vest, but I
have read some past talk about how search engines weight the relevant words
in the domain name itself. That makes sense simply because one needs to
keep the domain name within the realm of relev
Search engines try to keep their methodologies close to the vest, but I
have read some past talk about how search engines weight the relevant words
in the domain name itself. That makes sense simply because one needs to
keep the domain name within the realm of relevancy.
Ken mentioned early on
the same results.
> >
> > But I wouldn't want a page like that on the site...it would appear to the
> > viewer that the page had no content...that's as bad as some of the
> > gateway pages I've seen. The copy is terrible for the human visitor,
> > but g
tor,
> but great for the bot...
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Search engine question
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong and chances are it may be
ge-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Correct me if i'm wrong and chances are it may be the case, but i
think i remember reading that google doesn't base its ranking on index
page alone. It
Correct, but usually the other pages have a better amount of content available
where a lot of home pages don't.
From: Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Co
yep..but the index page is the jump off point...and the other internal pages
must be relevant to the index page etcso it's a pretty important part of
the puzzle ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.4
approach may not seem to make a lot of sense to a viewer
> who is unaware of why these variations would be on a page, which is to
> appeal to bots, I don't see how it would be considered unethical to include
> those variations on site map.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
>
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a
total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to goog
to roam in the rules.
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
>I think what you are saying is that if the user agent is a bot then you
>just serve them up a specific content page
>I think what you are saying is that if the user agent is a bot then you
>just serve them up a specific content page instead of the home page.
Not a seperate page...just bot specific content that mirrors the "real"
content (and yes..Will's site is another matter).
and if it's a bot you don'
, 2005 6:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Not sure who that wa aimed at Scott...but if you were referring to my user
agent suggestion:
> This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a
> total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google
f the site
like the bots want.
From: Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a
total monopoly on keywords. Y
Not sure who that wa aimed at Scott...but if you were referring to my user
agent suggestion:
> This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a
> total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google (and
> it happens) for hijacking traffic (only have to look at your
> the engines but they cant afford to pay you to do it better or to have a pro
> do it, so this is what I do for them and it seems to work fairly well:)
>
>
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday
ms to work fairly well:)
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Ah...well there are other easier ways of having bot content to
indexjust supp
Ah...well there are other easier ways of having bot content to
indexjust supply custom content based on user_agentas long as that
content is not different from what's IN the Flash (i.e. not spamming the
bots with extra content etc.)...then you can defend your use of this
technique..
alk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
I think what's happening here is (not knowing that much about how
bots read Flash) that Dave is saying his .swf redirect method is not
penalized by bots like redirects using other methods...right Dave?
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Ste
em and use what freedom they give you to be
creative :)
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
I missed the little SWF trick that's being talke
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
I missed the little SWF trick that's being talked aboutbut I thought I
saw something about redirects...which can kill your SEO...so I thought I'd
double check and make sue this trick doesn't involve r
I missed the little SWF trick that's being talked aboutbut I thought I
saw something about redirects...which can kill your SEO...so I thought I'd
double check and make sue this trick doesn't involve redirects on the home
page of site??
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce De
update
and try again...this could be a great boon for my SEO business...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
I'll try and fix wills then post the code with some better emb
>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
Thanks, Dave...didn't mean to hi-jack the thread...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engi
Thanks, Dave...didn't mean to hi-jack the thread...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
oh sorry lol
I'll send that to you.
I'll remake it in an earlier vers
Well I did it, but it isn't quite fast enough.
The swf is only 53 byes. Sits for a second, but that's too long. I COULD place
some text like: entering winston court sports.com
h
am I doing somethin wrong?
Thanks,
Will
~~
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From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
Sure
1. open up flash
2. make a new movie and size it 1x1 pixels
3. in the actionscript enter this mass of coding beauty
//redirect to home page is client has pr
I agree with whomever stated that it was good to have other domain name.
My answer was directed towards will's site only, sorry I should have noted
that.
While having a few other domain that are PROPERLY formated for placement is a
good thing just having other domain names with pointers to th
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question
Sure
1. open up flash
2. make a new movie and size it 1x1 pixels
3. in the actionscript enter this mass of coding beauty
//redirect to home page is client has proper version of flash
getURL ("mai
h player 7.
If you need that I have a great flash embed script that both validates and
shows a nice message if its not there.
dave
From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Se
lf though; make sure that the bulk of your
administration can be handled in one place...
Also, some of my sites only sell a specific subset of our products.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: re: Search
ouncements, then it's not spamming the visitor.
I agree with all your other points...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
People linking to your site also help
ently...
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Search engine question
>
> Do you like that nickname? haha
>
> Ok too start with you don't have any
them and
keep them optimized with keywords and phrases that need to be
repeated frequently...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question
Do you like that nickname? haha
Ok too start
page thats been formated for content only. www.denveralumnaegpb.org has that.
Basically it's a win win, without really cheating :)
From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:
> What's the url wilbergini?
abracadabra! www.winstoncourtsports.com
> I haven't read this yet but i threw it up 4 ya, http://www.jamwerx.
> com/HowGoogleWorks.swf
Preeesh! This looks like good info!
Will
~|
Logware (www.logw
I haven't read this yet but i threw it up 4 ya,
http://www.jamwerx.com/HowGoogleWorks.swf
From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search engine question
Ok, don't pummel me
Ok, don't pummel me for askin this one. I just know some of you will have the
answer.
On my volleyball apparel site, the client is asking about added domain names to
help attract more people. If I were to use something volleyball-shorts.com as a
domain name, would that add relevance to the sit
You definitely get the award for most creative (yet geeky - in a cool way)
signature block.
Ray
http://www.crystalvision.org
At 10:50 AM 3/31/2004, Les Mizzell wrote:
> > I would also suggest taking a look at this URI.
> > http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility
>
>
>Hmm...
> I would also suggest taking a look at this URI.
> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility
Hmm...which makes "Designing CSS Web Pages" by Christopher Schmitt
slightly wrong, don't it? OhhIt's in Zeldman's book as well...
--
Les Mizzell
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n, Fusebox, Accessibility and CSS
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From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: CSS and "Cloaking" Search Engine question...
Just out of curiosity:
Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using &
March 30, 2004 11:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: CSS and "Cloaking" Search Engine question...
Just out of curiosity:
Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using "page
navigation" to help with accessibility:
CSS:
#pagenav {
display:none;
}
On the Page:
Just out of curiosity:
Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using "page
navigation" to help with accessibility:
CSS:
#pagenav {
display:none;
}
On the Page:
links here
links here
This is certainly a good thing and I've started using it myself on a few
sites I'm
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