> ... I hate any business/company that think they can exploit a
> consumer.
really? this seems to be a popular issue...
- http://www.amanwithapencil.com/adobe.html
- http://aralbalkan.com/918
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> ... I hate any business/company that think they can exploit a
> consumer.
really? this seems to be a popular issue...
- http://www.ama
What ever tickles your fancy Scott, but at the end of the day who cares.
I don't hate M$, I hate any business/company that think they can exploit a
consumer.
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http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/25/adobe-open-sources-flex/
"Adobe is moving
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http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=WPF
We do enough in the OS space
http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=WPF
We do enough in the OS space we don't always chase headlines for it ;)
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Hey Scotty,
When will microsoft be open sourcing wpf :)
On 27/04/2007, at 2:32 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
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> Flex as Macrome
Scott,
I knew it would not be long for you to voice your opinion on your blog.
But let's take a step back for a minute, Adobe have done a great job with
Flex as Macromedia before them. But one thing that seems to be missing and
Scott you touched on it, but I do not think that you fully looked in
Interesting.
Blair
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fyi
We will be allowing contributions. This is mentioned in the FAQ:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source:FAQ#Will_Adobe_be_allowing_external_developers_as_committers_to_the_project.3F
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Blair McKenzie wrote:
> You shouldn't assume that open sour
Did a blog post,
http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog/archive/2007/04/27/flex-open-source-what-s-changed.aspx
There will be complaints hehe.
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You shouldn't assume that open source = open contributions. Open source
means only one thing - the source code is publicly available. It does NOT
mean that Adobe is going to allow community contributions to the core code
base.
In fact I would say that it is very unlikely that Flex will be opened t
Yeah. I have been on for some time, mostly to keep up with any
discussions about Flex and Apollo.
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> this thread didn't really go where I hoped... Angus Johnson and Andrew
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My bad :)
> (and it looks like it's degraded into the typical off-topic slanging
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Yeah,
Mike has posted here a few times over the years just very rare.
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the trouble about making general statements is people arguing the
point with edge-cases.
yes, there will always be simple sites that use server-generated HTML
and there will always be controlled conditions (intranets) that will
allow for specialised solutions.
and I'm not talking about developin
I agree with you Barry. As with the community aspect, I expect there
will be Adobe staff assigned to help manage and push the project
along, but there will need to be people who are not employed by Adobe
to get fully involved. (and they have to be capable and impartial)
Adobe will look after their
Pundits Preaching the Passing of HTML have been Persistently Proven Pungent.
No one size fits all solution for anything, IMO. Vanilla HTML does
somethings very well, and adding fluff, in the form of AJAX/flash
wizardry on serves to get in my way.
That said, there are things where a liberal spr
Barry,
Ajax will not die, it is thriving. The reason being is that for a quick
Web2.0 solution it is the most easiest to get up and running very quickly.
I have just finished an intranet system using dojo, and it was completed in
half the time it would have if I had been using flex. The reason b
this thread didn't really go where I hoped... Angus Johnson and Andrew
Muller got closest (thanx guys)
(and it looks like it's degraded into the typical off-topic slanging
match that [many people] are well and truly over)
so before it collapses into a steaming pile of poo... Getting back to
Flex
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Oh quit crying about the same attempt to discredit anything I say by
associating as being Microsoft propaganda. You look like an idiot as
everyone on this entire
On 4/27/07, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This has nothing to do with Silverlight.
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> I am not sure about your experience working in large companies, but a
> decision of this scale takes quite some time to finalize, and get
> approval for.
Yup, but the announcement itself is appea
This has nothing to do with Silverlight.
I am not sure about your experience working in large companies, but a
decision of this scale takes quite some time to finalize, and get
approval for.
We have been working on this internally for over a year, and it is
really the natural evolution for Fl
Exhibit A - http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1020
"For some people, (open source) is a philosophical requirement, a sign
of integrity and trust in a vendor. This will close that gap and
address any lingering doubts they have about our openness and
commitment to community."
"You have to enga
On 4/26/07, Angus Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The podcasts contain some pretty interesting info. Namely Adobe and "trusted
> committers" will be responsible for the main source. I suppose this will be
> for the core branch... with forks for more focused audiences.
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Cool, not sure how th
The podcasts contain some pretty interesting info. Namely Adobe and "trusted
committers" will be responsible for the main source. I suppose this will be
for the core branch... with forks for more focused audiences.
The expanded client market will drive more server sales. Red5 and co will
benefit.
Scott,
I think we need to wait and see how they plan this, my thoughts are more on
a tight repository because of the more upto date builds. Could be wrong, but
if anyone wanted to branch out then they would be hitting a merge nightmare.
But guess we need to wait and see...
On 4/26/07, Scott Bar
I can see a lot of positives about Adobe's move in this regard,
suffice to say some interesting thoughts popped into my head for
CFMX'ers especially well anyone for that matter.
Here's the thing I did wonder though today, what if Bluedragon +
WebORB + CFEclipse folks go together and formed an OS
You're right Andrew. Not all the source was available, rpc for one. Also you
can't currently recompile the framework if you want to strip out debug for
instance. so i guess we'll be able to do that soon.
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Angus
You're quite correct about a relationship between Flex and ColdFusion
sales. I interviewed Tim Buntel at MAX last year for BuilderAU and he
told me then that CF sales had been helped by Flex. Scorpio will
offer even better Flex support so if you're building frontends in Flex
and you want
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Ok here's my take...
It's really not unexpected. The SDK source was provided from day one, this
at least makes it official. No more concerns about IP when building custom
components.
>From a Coldfusion perspective?
Learn Flex / Actionscript as of yesterday. There's going to be an explosion
in th
Barry,
My first reaction, what date is it again oh wow its past April 1st:-)
My second reaction, after I picked myself of the floor, that is a very bold
and very strategic move by Adobe on this. My thoughts are that it would be
to compete with Blend / WPF / silverlight or whatever they damn call
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