Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Ellison
It will need to be a case of, you want Cin3 to talk to MSWin, you cut the code. Or if you want Cin3 to talk to some API, you write the code. The Cin3 umbrella is going to cover lots of sub-projects; I don't see why they cannot include Cin3-on-MSWin. Cin3 should be free/open in the standard distrib

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Scott C. Frase
On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 21:19 +0100, Helge Nert wrote: > Agree. Better quality, keeps 16:9 aspect ratio, allow lager clips and > you can allow people to download the original that you uploaded. > > All in all much better than YouTube (last time I checked). > Gents, Yes, YouTube quality is crap. B

[CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Jay Truesdale
> Also, applications that got an X in the beginning of their > names is often associated (at least I do) to being weird > It just sounds better to me to say "Cinchrony 2.0 > Tritium Edition" or some such thing. > Anyways, I tend to like the idea of "Verite" more and more, > and thanks for mention

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Florian Cramer
On Monday, February 11 2008, 22:52 (+0100), Herman Robak wrote: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:39:22 +0100, Mikko Huhtala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > Razor >> >> I can imagine the reviewers of the first buggy alphas writing >> headlines along the lines of "Getting cut by a Razor". I kinda like >

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:39:22 +0100, Mikko Huhtala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Razor I can imagine the reviewers of the first buggy alphas writing headlines along the lines of "Getting cut by a Razor". I kinda like it. I get mental images of emo self-mutilators cutting _themselves_. -- H

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Mikko Huhtala
Kurt Georg Hooss writes: > > I agree to the whole of you post. +1 Saturn, Orion, Iridium, Tritium have all been taken many times over for different products, from cars to satellite positioning systems. There's a movie distribution company named Orion. > Tritium is an expensive arcane materia

[CinCVS] [Bug 467] video faders ignore masks

2008-02-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Helge Nert
Agree. Better quality, keeps 16:9 aspect ratio, allow lager clips and you can allow people to download the original that you uploaded. All in all much better than YouTube (last time I checked). Aaron Newcomb wrote: Yep. Just started using Vimeo. Great quality. 500MB/week limit. Check it out.

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Aaron Newcomb
Yep. Just started using Vimeo. Great quality. 500MB/week limit. Check it out. On Feb 11, 2008 12:26 PM, Martin Ahnelöv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mån 2008-02-11 klockan 17:32 +0100 skrev Burkhard Plaum: > > Hi, > > > > Stefan de Konink schrieb: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:37:11 +0100, Burkhard Plaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aaron Newcomb schrieb: I also think if the next version picks up enough steam to do regular releases it would be a good idea to tack on a release name to generate more buzz. It just sounds better to me to say "Cinch

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Aaron Newcomb schrieb: I also think if the next version picks up enough steam to do regular releases it would be a good idea to tack on a release name to generate more buzz. It just sounds better to me to say "Cinchrony 2.0 Tritium Edition" or some such thing. Commercial software vendors n

[CinCVS] Re: codec for youtube? (Thomas H. George)

2008-02-11 Thread Dale Jovan Thomas
You should just export your project to Mpeg and it should upload to you tube without any problems here are some steps: http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html Dale J. Thomas Aden Films.

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Ahnelöv
mån 2008-02-11 klockan 17:32 +0100 skrev Burkhard Plaum: > Hi, > > Stefan de Konink schrieb: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > Thomas H. George schreef: > >> I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She > >> tried to post it on YouTube but

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Aaron Newcomb
Great post Jay. And I agree with most of what you have to say. Try to > picture these names in context – pictured on the start screen, or > referenced in discussion of a recent feature film. Here they are: > > Saturn > Orion > Iridium > Tritium. I picture these types of names to go with specific

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Martin Ellison schreef: > * I was thinking specifically of Blender. Is there going to be any > way of getting Cin3 and Blender working together? Wasn't there this video rendering thing that used Blender to render transitions? GVFX (GNU Vid

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Florian Cramer
On Tuesday, February 12 2008, 00:26 (+0800), Martin Ellison wrote: > * I don't see any reason why Cin3 could not run on MSWin. If the code is > portable, it should be possible to compile it anywhere. It would imply implementing support for Windows-specific audio + accelerated video APIs

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Martin Ellison schrieb: * I don't see any reason why Cin3 could not run on MSWin. If the code is portable, it should be possible to compile it anywhere. It may be necessary to ifdef out some features though. As soon as you do things like sockets, mmap, multithread etc, you

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Stefan de Konink schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thomas H. George schreef: I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it was an incorrect codec. What should I give her that she ca

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Ellison
- I was thinking specifically of Blender. Is there going to be any way of getting Cin3 and Blender working together? - I don't see any reason why Cin3 could not run on MSWin. If the code is portable, it should be possible to compile it anywhere. It may be necessary to ifdef out some

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Bruno Miguel
You can also try upload the video to vimeo.com. This service allows HiDef videos. >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA512 > >Thomas H. George schreef: >> I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She >> tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Matt Jordan
Thomas H. George wrote: I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it was an incorrect codec. What should I give her that she can post to YouTube? ___ Cinelerra mai

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thomas H. George schreef: > I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She > tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it was an > incorrect codec. What should I give her that she can post to YouTube? ffmpeg c

Re: [CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Thomas H. George schrieb: I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it was an incorrect codec. What should I give her that she can post to YouTube? Which codec did you try? I guess that MPEG-4 or msmpeg

Re: [CinCVS] Vote for a Name for a new NLE

2008-02-11 Thread Aaron Newcomb
I don't like any of them a whole lot, but for what it's worth ... > [X ] Cinchrony or > [X ] Freecine -- Thanks, Aaron Newcomb http://www.thesourceshow.org http://www.opennewsshow.org ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.l

[CinCVS] codec for youtube?

2008-02-11 Thread Thomas H. George
I gave my daughter a brief video of her son rendered as .avi file. She tried to post it on YouTube but received a message that it was an incorrect codec. What should I give her that she can post to YouTube? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skole

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Martin Ahnelöv
mån 2008-02-11 klockan 00:39 -0800 skrev Jay Truesdale: > Some of my colleagues suggested “Next Edit” or “X Edit”, both of which are > taken. One is a video editor, the other is a Unix editor. > > One idea is to simply call it “X NLE”, but brand it as “X”. It's bold, > evocative, simple and real

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss
I agree to the whole of you post. Just to say that "Saturn" is one of the two biggest consumer electronics mall chains in germany, present in every major city. It has a reputation of being cheap and bad (slogan: "Stinginess is lustful"). Orion, in contrast, is a chain of sex-and-erotic shops. :-

[CinCVS] Re: Install Cinelerra on Fedora 8

2008-02-11 Thread Valent Turkovic
Can you please fix Fedora install info on your site? Thank you, Valent. On Jan 1, 2008 2:11 PM, Valent Turkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I found you have a bit out-of-date info about installing Cinelerra > on Fedora linux so please see my blog post. > > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/i

[CinCVS] [Bug 467] video faders ignore masks

2008-02-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467 --- Comment #2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-02-11 14:01 +2 --- Im using cinelerra 2.1CV Built Tue Apr 24 2007 Its the package built for ubuntu studio 7.04 Leo,, -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --

Re: [CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jay Truesdale schreef: >> But you should look at the Wiki; the brain storming is happening >> mostly there: http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names > > Thanks, I will check it out. > >> Good names on FOSS-projects: >> Wesnoth, Firefox, Blender,

[CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Jay Truesdale
> But you should look at the Wiki; the brain storming is happening > mostly there: http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names Thanks, I will check it out. > Good names on FOSS-projects: > Wesnoth, Firefox, Blender, Bongo, Apache, Inkscape, Mono, Fspot, > Linux, Irssi, WordPress ... Agreed. Fire

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Richard Spindler
Cineplex is already a large branded movie theater chain here in Austria. Anyways, I tend to like the idea of "Verite" more and more, and thanks for mentioning about how you feel about that name, because somehow that makes it even more attractive for me, but I guess that is because I already have a

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
On Feb 11, 2008 9:39 AM, Jay Truesdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > development. Having said that, while I cannot contribute on the coding > side, I can offer my advice on branding. > Razor > Razor Wire > Saturn > Orion > Iridium > Tritium. Great post! I love some of those names. But you should

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread IL'dar AKHmetgaleev
На Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:01:31 -0400 "Leo germani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> записано: > I was thinking of an ideia the other day... of a multi-level time > line... something similar to the Flash Time line in a way... > > this means you can paste a whole project in you time line and it will > appear as i

[CinCVS] Cinelerra Branding Considerations

2008-02-11 Thread Jay Truesdale
I'm a noob to this list, I've just recently become aware of Cinelerra, and the development, the new version, and the names being discussed. I've been looking around at the editing options out there and am very impressed with the Cinelerra, and the open source community that supports it. So impres

Re: [CinCVS] Why can't free software GUIs be empowering instead of limiting?

2008-02-11 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 AM, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some sort of OLE style linkage between prgrams. This is probably too hard, > at least if we want Cin3 to run on MSWin as well. Win? No, we don't want that. Anyway, I don't think it will be hard for other programs to link into Th