RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-05 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 08:40 PM 1/5/01, Willy Schoots wrote: >If this >attempt to locate a DHCP server fails, the Windows 2000 DHCP client >autoconfigures its stack with a selected IP address from the IANA-reserved >class B network 169.254.0.0 with the subnet mask 255.255.0.09 . The DHCP >client tests (using a gratui

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread John Nemeth
On May 28, 10:03am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } } Microsoft stole this from AppleTalk. Ironically, Apple doesn't care and in MS made a draft RFC about it, which has expired, and there is a new draft by Apple (see my previous note). } fact has been using the Automatic Private IP Address

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread Mask Of Zorro
MS started using the private addressing thing with Windows 98... Z >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: A question regarding private addressing >Date: Fri,

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread Craig Columbus
OK. I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do something like this and then expect the world to revolve around them. However, I'm confused as to the benefit. Why would anyone want a non-assigned default IP address to appear on their network? Do they really think that p

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread Kevin_Cullimore
red or not. Craig Columbus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/06/2001 10:49:09 AM Please respond to Craig Columbus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: A question regarding private addressing

Re: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread D. J. Jones
My limited understanding on these addresses are that they should ONLY be used on your local lans. Communication to the internet via an ISP would have to be dealt with by using NAT or some other proxy mechanism such as a firewall in which the outside addresses are registered. ..dj "Craig Columbu

Re: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Let's try for some perspective on 169.254 and related issues. Trying to remember an IETF hallway discussion, I think with Jeff Schiller of MIT (might have been Bill Manning), the convention for using this particular block originated at MIT, not either Apple or Microsoft. Don't confuse this me

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
all myself?" Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A question regarding private addressing OK. I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-06 Thread John Nemeth
On May 29, 5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote: } } OK. I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do } something like this and then expect the world to revolve around Actually, as Howard mentioned, neither of these companies initiated the protocol, but that's a minor point.

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 10:37 PM 1/6/01, John Nemeth wrote: >On May 29, 5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote: >} >} OK. I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do >} something like this and then expect the world to revolve around > > Actually, as Howard mentioned, neither of these companies >initia

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread William E. Gragido
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A question regarding private addressing At 10:37 PM 1/6/01, John Nemeth wrote: >On May 29, 5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote: >} >} OK. I can accept that

RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Let me make some comments fundamentally for background. It's increasingly considered useful to minimize the amount of configuration that an end station needs to do before becoming active. Servers and routers are special cases. DHCP is stateful: the DHCP server remembers what addresses have be

RE: A question regarding private addressing (correction)

2001-01-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Let me make some comments fundamentally for background. It's increasingly considered useful to minimize the amount of configuration that an end station needs to do before becoming active. Servers and routers are special cases. DHCP is stateful: the DHCP server remembers what addresses have been