Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread Hamid
Maybe a silly question, Can anyone tell me what shunning is? John Kaberna wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I don't see why you'd get flamed for that except maybe from a die-hard Cisco employee and even then I doubt it. I prefer Snort a lot more than Cisco's IDS

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread Ben Woltz
Shunning refers to the functionality of the IDS sensor to dynamically create and ACL that denies the attacker access and apply it to a specific interface. For example, you would have it setup that when the sensor sees an attack from 65.65.65.65 it would create and ACL denying 65.65.65.65 access

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I wouldn't use shunning only because a hacker can spoof an address, and you shun it, such as a web server, or IDS console, etc.. Hamid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Maybe a silly question, Can anyone tell me what shunning is? John Kaberna wrote in message

RE: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDS Questions [7:46639] I wouldn't use shunning only because a hacker can spoof an address, and you shun it, such as a web server, or IDS console, etc.. Hamid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Maybe a silly question, Ca

RE: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread Roberts, Larry
-Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDS Questions [7:46639] I wouldn't use shunning only because a hacker can spoof an address, and you shun it, such as a web server, or IDS console

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread itsme
One thing the Cisco IDS has, and why we went with it is because of the host sensors, and the ability to cooralate all the hosts data with the network data. Although we haven't purchased the hosts as of yet, we know it's viable. -TV Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL

IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread Brian Zeitz
I read that the 2600 router (or definitely higher model routers) have IDS built in, but if you bought any Pix Firewall it wouldn't have IDS. Am I mistaken on this? So the most people who want IDS who cannot afford / justify (just yet) and IDS box are using Snort? I have a pix 515UR, and if I read

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread John Kaberna
PIX's and routers capable of running IDS run a very limited version of IDS. I believe they only catch 59 signatures which isn't very much. It's not bad for a small company that has a PIX that would like to start down the path of having a true IDS some day. I'm not sure what you mean about Snort

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread John Kaberna
I stand corrected on the shunning part (thanks Glenn). You can use shun with 6.1, but I am not sure about the details for allowing this to happen dynamically using CSPM. I hesitate to ever implement dynamic shunning as a savvy attacker can use that to shun valid sources as a form of DoS. John

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread Ken Diliberto
Brian, We can both justify and afford a commercial IDS but choose Snort. What do see as drawbacks to Snort? Do you have a connection to the Internet? If so, what makes you think you don't need an IDS? Get Snort up and running. You might be surprised. We're running Snort on a Sun 220R. I

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread Peter Walker
I hope I dont get flamed for this ... but I would like to ask a similar but different question. What reason is there to choose Cisco IDS over Snort. I just dont see Cisco IDS as having much in the way of advantages over Snort other than a Cisco label and a high price tag (and yes both of

Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-14 Thread John Kaberna
I don't see why you'd get flamed for that except maybe from a die-hard Cisco employee and even then I doubt it. I prefer Snort a lot more than Cisco's IDS because of price and I do prefer the fact that you have nearly an entire industry of security people that work on Snort. There are very few