Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From the web...just posted for dicussion fodder, I'm not making any statements here or trying to discourage anyone... http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid7_gci843400,00.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51052&t=51052

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Robert D. Cluett
I like this statement "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was complex. Certification was important because it told an employer and customers that the certified professional could find his way around complicated networks. But now networks are easier to install and mainta

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Robert D. Cluett wrote: > > I like this statement > > "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was > complex. > Certification was important because it told an employer and > customers that > the certified professional could find his way around > complicated networks. > But

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 6:02 PM + 8/9/02, Robert D. Cluett wrote: >I like this statement > >"Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was complex. >Certification was important because it told an employer and customers that >the certified professional could find his way around complicated netwo

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
And, can you stand one more message on this topic? ;-) Instead of reading that rather silly interpretation of the salary study, be sure to go to the actual study at TCP Magazine. It's very interesting, and one could easily come away with a good impression of the market, not the bad one that we ar

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Mark Smith
Quoting "Robert D. Cluett" : > I like this statement > > "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the > technology was complex. > Certification was important because it told an > employer and customers that > the certified professional could find his way around > complicated networks. > B

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread nrf
I agree that the statement of the 12-year-old is going too far. Having said that, I do agree that knowledge of basic networking has been commoditized. To be perfectly honest, if all you know how to do is connect a router and configure some basic static routes, you don't know much, not in this ec

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread John Golovich
But can the twelve year old solve a BGP neighbor issue? More then likely his answer will be, "well I put everything in the GUI where it asked." --- Mark Smith wrote: > Quoting "Robert D. Cluett" : > > > I like this statement > > > > "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the > > techn

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Tom Lisa
Priscilla, I'd have to disagree with you here. We have many, many programs that are doing well in the high schools. We supervise 20 Local Acadamies of which 18 are high schools. In fact, the Academy Program was originally intended just for high schools and they comprise the bulk of our acadami

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 7:04 PM + 8/9/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Robert D. Cluett wrote: >> >> I like this statement >> >> "Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was >> complex. >> Certification was important because it told an employer and >> customers that >> the certified pr

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Gaz
Can't agree more. If I've been through subnet masks once I've been through it ten times with my son. He's still not happy with wildcard masks and goes off the handle if the addresses aren't contiguous. I'm going to leave it until he's at least six years old now. I'm wasting my time with him. :-)

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Tom Lisa wrote: > > Priscilla, > > I'd have to disagree with you here. We have many, many > programs that > are doing well in the high schools. We supervise 20 Local > Acadamies > of which 18 are high schools. > In fact, the Academy Program was > originally intended just for high schools and

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Crawford, Darren S
I thought you were supposed to write about what you know. This guy probably thinks the lab is just a typing test. D. At 03:15 PM 8/9/2002 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From the web...just posted for dicussion fodder, I'm not making any >statements here or trying to discourage anyone... > >ht

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Chuck's Long Road
""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > At 6:02 PM + 8/9/02, Robert D. Cluett wrote: > >I like this statement > > > >"Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was complex. > >Certification was important because it told an em

Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-10 Thread Kevin Cullimore
- Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" To: Sent: 09 August 2002 5:57 pm Subject: Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052] > > The key, we have found, is to be selective in the students you > > allow into > > the program. > > Sure you can be selectiv

RE: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-12 Thread Brian Zeitz
With more applications becoming internet ready everyday. With rapid changed in technology, with companies using the internet in new ways. With files getting larger, requiring more bandwidth, with video apps becoming more commonplace, with common users using and editing streaming video/Tivo. With D