Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-20 Thread Curtis Rose
Good Question! I have read that IS-IS can accept more nodes than OSPF. Yet, I find that Juniper is pushing IS-IS and the US Govt has some networks on IS-IS. Black in the IP Routing Protocols basically states it is an IP Protocol but is not used in the internet or much elsewhere for that matter.

Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-20 Thread Curtis Rose
ginal Message - From: "Curtis Rose" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] > Good Question! > > I have read that IS-IS can accept more nodes than OSPF. Yet, I find that > Juniper is pushing IS-IS and the US Gov

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] I still can not leave that question alone. It is a good question. Why is IS-IS for large networks? The why is the key. http://www.juniper.net/techcenter/techpapers/23-02.html .Design for Scalability Scalab

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Curtis Call
>BTW, I have been told by folks who work in really big networks that none of >the routing protocols scale beyond 4-5K routers. As an interesting aside, a >few weeks ago on NANOG there was a discussion about the largest RIPv1 >network in existence. It was revealed that until a year or two ago, Xero

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu
- From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:38 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] >BTW, I have been told by folks who work in really big networks that none of >the r

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Curtis Call
>Chuck > >-Original Message- >From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:38 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] > > > >BTW, I have been

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Andras Bellak
ly! Chuck -Original Message- From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:38 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] >BTW, I have been told by folks who work in really big networks

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu
-Original Message- From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:28 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] That's true, I didn't bother to try the math at all but i

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Think OC192 ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andras Bellak Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] Anybody want to guess the amount

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-21 Thread Andras Bellak
1, 2001 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] -Original Message- From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:28 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How is IS-IS more sca

Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-22 Thread NRF
So some people have said that IS-IS is more scalable because it doesn't run Dijsktra as much as OSPF does. OK, then why not? Is it because of the partial-routing update thing, or is there more to it? Also, I agree that IS-IS level-1 areas are by their nature "totally stubby". But that doesn't c

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-22 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
First, don't misunderstand me. ISIS and OSPF are both good protocols, and the decision to use one or the other in a given provider network can come down to personal preference. OSPF has a lot of features that tend to be needed more in an enterprise, but can be bandwidth-conserving from a POP

Re: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-22 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
See my earlier comments to Chuck. >So some people have said that IS-IS is more scalable because it doesn't run >Dijsktra as much as OSPF does. OK, then why not? Is it because of the >partial-routing update thing, or is there more to it? True, both run Dijkstra, but ISIS allows longer timer set

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
all [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:38 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207] > > > >BTW, I have been told by folks who work in really big networks that none of > >

RE: How is IS-IS more scalable than OSPF? [7:5207]

2001-05-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Literally! > > > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message----- > >From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:38 PM > >To: Chuck Larrieu > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject:RE: How is IS-IS more scalable