Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-20 Thread Jose Canillas
One fact to take in account, Cisco's IDS can interact with a router or a Pix (assuming the said router/pix is between the IDS and the public network) and modify acl for incoming traffic to deny IP traffic from intruder's IP address, you can set up how much time the intruder's IP will be blocked. R

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-20 Thread Scott Nelson
I use ISS, NFR and Checkpoint for IDS stuff but am looking into doing Cisco IDS on CAT 6500 stuff. I would get all of 'em if you can afford it. Each has missed stuff and has faults in one way or another. I tried the Cisco stuff 2 years ago and thought it was at the bottom of the heap then. Am goin

Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread nrf
""Sean Kim"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello all, > > My company is thinking about installing an IDS (dedicated appliance type) > for our network. > As far as I know, the Real Secure and the Cisco IDS are two biggest names > out there. Actually, the biggest n

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Troy Leliard
Hi Sean, I currently use Cisco IDSM (IDS module for the Cat6500), Nokia IDS, and Snort on the server themselves. You can never be paranoid enough about these sort of things. Each vendor has different exploits etc, so by implementing a multi vendor path to your critical servers, you protect your

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Albert Lu
take once the IDS detects an attack? Logging it into the syslog server is not enough. Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] Hi Sea

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Troy Leliard
> > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] > > > Hi Sean, > > I currently use Cisco IDSM (IDS modul

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Scott Nelson
You can span/mirror 2 ports into one so we only have one set at each ISP connection. Most of the action is manual with the exception of some fairly proven exploits that we use ISS "kills" to handle, such as Napster traffic ( not a big deal now that it's gone ), gnutella, code red, DNS I-queries, e

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Albert Lu
riday, February 21, 2003 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] As with most things, you need to way up costs againts your requirements. IN our case, security is absolutely essential, so having a multivendor security solutions (and indeed fully redundant) is c

Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Paulo Roque
There are some papers comparing IDS solution (Cisco, ISS, Snort, etc) on NSS. The did a good job. http://www.nss.co.uk/ Paulo Roque Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63510&t=63461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscri

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Troy Leliard
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] > > > As with most things, you need to way up costs againts your > requirements. IN > our case, sec

Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Darrell Newcomb
""Albert Lu"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > how quickly can you respond to your alerts? Since for some attacks, a half > hour response time could cause your site to be down (eg. slammer virus). If > that was the case, even if you had all the vendor's IDS, it will be useless. Just to so

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Albert Lu
s game. Regards, Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] Hi Albert, We have 24x7 cover so that response time is pretty quick. (and a ve

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread cebuano
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Lu Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] Hi Troy, Must be some secure site, reason I was interested is that I had a discussion with someone else before in regards to multi-vendor IDS so

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Jim Brown
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Lu Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] Hi Troy, Must be some secure site, reason I was interested is that I had a discussion with someone else before in regards to

Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread Scott Nelson
You are correct. That's why security should be a "belt and suspenders" approach. For the Code red stuff, SQL slammer, etc, we just used NBAR on Cisco to drop the packets. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/nbar_acl_codered.shtml#1 ISS gets some stuff, Checkpoint is good at getting some other st

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-23 Thread Sean Kim
Thank you very much everybody. I think I have received some valuable info/background to get myself started. Sean Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63608&t=63461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-24 Thread Evans, TJ (BearingPoint)
happening. Otherwise, you have nothing ... (quite literally) Thanks! TJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] Come on now, t

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]-Automat [7:63560]

2003-02-22 Thread Jim Brown
ry 22, 2003 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]-Automated IDS [7:63557] I cut out some of the other messages to concentrate on one issue, automated IDS responses. If your automated IDS responses result in a "automated" packet filter of any

RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]-Automated IDS [7:63557]

2003-02-22 Thread Carroll Kong
nd to an > attack. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Albert Lu > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461] > > Hi Troy, > &