Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread Larry Letterman
In the enterprise, I can vlan a building into seperate lans, route between them and connect all the users with the same box..Thats one reason for layer 3 switches.. With the inclusion of the switching module in the 3745 router box, it now kinda blurs the difference between routers and switches.. T

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread Orlando, Jr. Palomar
Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane, usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3 switch running at "wire-speed" would be much more efficient in routing (and switching) between VLANs compared t

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread aletoledo
a "layer three switch" is a router, just as a "switch" is really a bridge. a layer 3 switch 'routes' in hardware, while a router routes in software. thats the easiest way to look at them. it has gaps, but once you get the big picture you can then start to talk about the specifics. probably the bi

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread The Long and Winding Road
The problem with this whole discussion is that it focuses around hardware that has been defined as something by the manufacturers, and does not focus on function. In the end, it is software - code - that does what it does, and the hardware it runs on is irrelevant. The OSI model is just a way of

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 4:36 AM + 3/13/03, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >The problem with this whole discussion is that it focuses around hardware >that has been defined as something by the manufacturers, and does not focus >on function. I tried. I really tried not to rejoin this never ending thread. But may

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:43 AM 3/13/2003 +, aletoledo wrote: >a "layer three switch" is a router, just as a "switch" is really a bridge. a >layer 3 switch 'routes' in hardware, while a router routes in software. For what its worth, Juniper would likely take exception to your calling their products layer three s

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane, >usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3 switch running at "wire-speed" >would be much more

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:16 PM 3/13/2003 -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >At 2:43 PM + 3/13/03, Peter van Oene wrote: >>At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >>>Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >>>is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 2:43 PM + 3/13/03, Peter van Oene wrote: >At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >>Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >>is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane, >>usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-14 Thread Scott Roberts
> In the end, the device either routes or bridges the frames it > receives, but takes no action that can be distinctly described as layer > three switching. > > Pete > to my basic understanding ALL routing has a switching component to it already, whether we're talking about regular routers or L3 s

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 5:57 PM + 3/14/03, Scott Roberts wrote: > > In the end, the device either routes or bridges the frames it >> receives, but takes no action that can be distinctly described as layer >> three switching. >> >> Pete >> > >to my basic understanding ALL routing has a switching component to it

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:57 PM 3/14/2003 +, Scott Roberts wrote: > > In the end, the device either routes or bridges the frames it > > receives, but takes no action that can be distinctly described as layer > > three switching. > > > > Pete > > > >to my basic understanding ALL routing has a switching component to