I did not mean to say without touching production network.
-keyur shah-
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From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:27 AM
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Subject: Re: LongRE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
If I may ask, why exactly is it a good
If I may ask, why exactly is it a good thing that people can pass the lab
with just books, lab gear, and groupstudy, without ever having touched a
production network in his life? This kind of thing is precisely the enabler
of all these lab-rat CCIE's that are starting to seriously water down the
I think everyone is missing the point. By far the most important reason to
get the CCIE is to get a job (honestly, why else would you do it?). But the
stark reality is that without proper experience, you are going to find the
job market quite tough anyway, I don't care how many or what certs you
To add onto it...experience helps you support such networks and high profile
web sites and enterprise networks in real time, where downtime is counted in
minutes and sometimes in seconds. It is impossible to do clear ip bgp * and
get your bgp routes which one may do all the time while preparing in
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