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> Steven A. Ridder
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> The CCIE lab is just as difficult as before. They just don't test you on
> troublshooting. I once heard that no one who ever ma
another FWIW
I made it to the second day my first try but was not allowed to
troubleshoot as I
hadn't enough points. As far as hard, it seems that the passing rate is
still quite
low, it was arounf 15% in 96 when I took it and I think it is still hovering
around
there today.
Dave
Chuck wro
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Subject: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
The CCIE lab is just as difficult as before. They just don't test you on
troublshooting. I once heard that no one who ever made it to the second day
failed. I can't say that it's true, but I don't doubt it. Trouble
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Hi Howard,
I'm glad to see gettla
>PHB level?? I'm curious what that means. ;-)
Actually, now that I think of it, there are two meanings of relevance:
Dilbertian: Pointy-Haired Boss
Traffic Engineering: Per-Hop Behavior
>
>I think the process at Cisco has degenerated even beyond what you describe.
>It's n
PHB level?? I'm curious what that means. ;-)
I think the process at Cisco has degenerated even beyond what you describe.
It's not just that instructional designers (IDs) rather than subject matter
experts (SMEs) write the questions and answers. The new breed of IDs also
seem to have limited ex
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Howard C. Berkowitz
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Subject: Re: Oops....Re: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
I'll admit the quality of Cisco tests (other than perhaps the CCIE
W
Cisco claims that the CCIE lab has recently been updated to include more
relevant and real world topic than ever before. Also, I am saying all this
as a 3rd party as I have never experienced the lab.
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FWIW, I know of plenty of people who made it to day two, and even into
troubleshooting, and came away empty.
I might agree with your point about technology, except that it should be
pretty apparent that certain technologies that Cisco deems important ( and
many of Cisco's large customers as well
I'll admit the quality of Cisco tests (other than perhaps the CCIE
Written) leaves a good deal to be desired. But unless things have
radically changed, this is, in part, a result of the process used to
create them, and the fact that "instructional design professionals"
are in charge.
When I k
With respect, I would argue that Cisco wants to sell
products and that the certifications are a way to add
credibality to them as a vendor.
I do agree that one may come across old equipment in
their travels, and perhaps I am fortunate to work with
newer things, but I have to question the conflict
The CCIE lab is just as difficult as before. They just don't test you on
troublshooting. I once heard that no one who ever made it to the second day
failed. I can't say that it's true, but I don't doubt it. Troubleshooting
and cabling isn't CCIE level stuff. As for the old equipment, you aren
2 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
> By that reasoning Cisco should put Appletalk, IPX, X.25, ATM
> LANE, and even Decnet back into their exams.
>
> On a certification exam, I don't think it's helpful to have a
> number of questions on equipment tha
should anyone be surprised that Cisco too is becoming victim to the
certification craze?
1) cert tests for everything under the sun
2) reduction of the CCIE Lab from two days to one
3) obsolete and EOL'd equipment in the Lab
4) lower level tests that have too many filler questions centered aro
) And, I know that Appletalk is still in some of the CCNP v2
exams. However, it looks like you'll soon be able to scratch
NLSP off the CCIE test. Keep your fingers crossed.
John
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Tshon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I think that what your missing is that. Cisco
By that reasoning Cisco should put Appletalk, IPX, X.25, ATM
LANE, and even Decnet back into their exams.
On a certification exam, I don't think it's helpful to have a
number of questions on equipment that Cisco doesn't even sell
anymore. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any, but if they'r
I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare
you for anything that
is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't
gaurantee that you
won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are
prepared to represent
their company. Secondly if
If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been
EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just
don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test.
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