Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>
> Ok n rf... I will admit before I go any farther, this is a rant
> ;)
>
> You have hit the nail on the head. The one that puts me over
> the top. I
> am going to refer back to my first rant over CCIE numbers.
> hehehe. The
> part where Corporate America oughtta go hang out
p.s. I drive a Hyundai and MY beer is made in Holland. ;)
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Mark E. Hayes
My basic point is this, however moot. I am not talking about NOT hiring
foreign workers. I have no beef with that. My beef is with CORPORATE
GREED. You claim to be a free-market capitalist. Are you a business
owner? Or do you invest in the market, or both? Maybe I should have said
this in my previo
ake a decent living w/o an Ivy
> League
> education.
>
> Give me a minute while I put my shields up!
I am not minimizing the pain of people who have gone through layoffs. But
on the other hand, this is the way the business cycle works. Sometimes
business is good, and other times, business
have to rely on their
morality for your livelihood.
>From: "Mark E. Hayes"
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>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:05:30 GMT
>
>My basic point
> jobs of
> the people who are trying to make a decent living w/o an Ivy
> League
> education.
>
> Give me a minute while I put my shields up!
I am not minimizing the pain of people who have gone through layoffs.
But
on the other hand, this is the way the business cycle works. Someti
]
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Mark, I think it is safe to say that "corporate greed" is never going to
go
away. You cannot legislate or force morality on someone - unless they
are
breaking the law they should be able to do whatever is best for their
No service no money.
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"Most companies exist to provide a service, hopefully m
still providing a service.
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"Most companies exist to provide a service, hopefu
t;Mark E. Hayes"
>To: "Jeff Smith" ,
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>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:51:01 -0500
>
>I'm starting a business to provide a service first. If the service is
>good, then hopefully I will make mon
t;
>
>
>
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>Mark E. Hayes wrote:
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ng in.
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If you are starting a business to provide a service first then you must
be
one o
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If you are starting a business to provide a service first then you must
be
one of the fortunate people that do not ha
At 7:53 PM + 6/20/03, John Neiberger wrote:
>No one said that you can make money without providing a service. The point
>was that most people do not start businesses simply to provide a service.
>In fact, they need to make money to provide for themselves and their
>families so they start a bus
Blame it on the dot.conners
Jamie, ex-dotter
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At 7:53 PM
Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>
> The way I see it, which judging by the responses is wrong, you
> start a
> business by doing what you know how to do. I can't start a
> business
> making paper because I have no clue how to do that. A big
> corporation
> can do that by simply buying another company out. B
At 6:01 PM + 6/22/03, n rf wrote:
>Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>>
>> The way I see it, which judging by the responses is wrong, you
>> start a
>> business by doing what you know how to do. I can't start a
>> business
>> making paper because I have no clue how to do that. A big
>> corporation
>>
wrong with showing an
employee like that some loyalty. I love the over analysis though.
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> Mark E. Hayes wrote:
> >
> > The way I see it, which judging by the responses is wrong, you
> > start a
> > business by doing what you know how to do. I can't start a
> > business
> > making paper because I have no clue how to do that. A big
> >
Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>
> Ok Sen. McCarthy,
>
> Your response is Bolshevik, get it? ;) All I'm talking about is
> taking
> care of people who took care of you. As an employee I have an
> obligation
> to do x amount of work. I always do more than that, it's a
> pride thing.
> I want the business I
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Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>
> Ok Sen. McCarthy,
>
> Your response is Bolshevik, get it? ;) All I'm talking about is
> taking
> care of people who took care of you. As an employee I have an
> obligation
> to do x amount o
Mark E. Hayes wrote:
>
> No, I don't expect anything but a paycheck at the end of a pay
> period.
> Are you worried your employees may read this?
Hence the use of anonymous email.
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Mark E. Hayes wrote:
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> No, I don't expect any
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