I think it's been hashed out on this list before that this survey is pretty
ridiculous. Some of the numbers might be slightly representative of the big
cities, others are a laugh. A search of the archive should produce the
various arguements.
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As usual these average salaries are totally inflated and unrealistic!!
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> I think it's been hashed out on this list before that this survey is
pretty
> ridiculous. Some of the numbers might be slightly representative of the
big
> cities, others are a l
I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel that these salary surveys are
a load of crap. As Sam mentioned, he doesn't support the claims of the
salary survey and I agree with him. I think the name of these survey's
should be changed to "Salary's that we wish we made". People are probably
asham
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>I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel that these
salary surveys are
>a load of crap. As Sam mentioned, he doesn't support the
claims of the
>salary survey and I agree with him. I
I think it is part B.S. and part people that were lucky that
are making the avg or above avg.
For many of the people making more then the average, I believe it was
a combination of
1 - salesmanship
2 - outright LIE
3 - interviewer not making sure they can do what they say
they can.
I said many
One thing to consider is that the salaries listed on page 3 are for MCSEs
WITH
the listed cisco cert (and who knows how many other certs).
Still, I agree that all of the surveys I've seen are pretty superficial
appearing and seem to be 10-20% above salaries I've seen. To do a
comprehensive
survey
10:51 PM
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The TX ones are WAY off according to classifieds & the companies I've worked
for in the past. Instead of $70K+ for MCSE+I it's more like $35K+ unless
you get lucky & find a large enough company
To be honest, if I were to take part in the survey, I would inflate the
salary and expect most others to do the same.
This wouldn't be done out of pride or to impress, but what are you going to
get out of giving your real salary out.
May as well try to push the going rate up, I would have thought.
Well in CA the "cost of living" includes assuming you save $$ to move when
it falls into the ocean ;)
J/K for those offended ;)
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From: Mark Villanova
To: 'Allen May' ;
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: certification sal
Texas is a big state, it depends where you are:
I for one am just about right on the money regarding this salary survey, and
I work for a small chemical company (>
The TX ones are WAY off according to classifieds & the companies I've worked
for in the past. Instead of $70K+ for MCSE+I it's more
That may be true but I'd also be interested in a more accurate
survey. The problem with these surveys is that they don't take enough
variables into account. A certification alone is not enough to make a
judgement. We should take into account education, years in the field,
etc.
For example, t
Well by taking a meaningful sample of a certification's population you
should cover the variation in experience. Personally I would expect
lower level certifications to have a wider distribution wrt experience
and that should translate into the same in salary.
With small populations(numbers of
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