Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-03 Thread DAve Diaz
what drives change, cash flow. Dave From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 03:14:35 -0500 Exactly. Anybody can get a job if they're willing to flip burgers, but of course people who earn the CCIE are going

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-03 Thread news
Hi I agree with you. Even cert like CCIE is getting less and less important for companies. I don't see the hype for CCIE that existed in 1999. I am currently working on it but wonder whether it is worth it yet or not. However, it is still a very difficult exam to pass. It is still very

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-02 Thread nrf
Exactly. Anybody can get a job if they're willing to flip burgers, but of course people who earn the CCIE are going to expect something a little better than that. That is my point exactly. The CCIE may no longer earn you much of a premium in the market any more. It's not 1999. VoIP Guy

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-29 Thread VoIP Guy
It certainly dosen't hurt to get a CCIE. The world is never going to throw itself at you, so go out and learn as much as you can and get your CCIE. If you can't get a job with a CCIE, you have other problems. I am just a CCNP and I can get a job. nrf wrote in message [EMAIL

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-28 Thread RB Jón Eggert Guðmundsson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] I don't like discouraging anybody or making anybody feel bad. But on the other hand, I would be doing everybody here a disservice if I didn't report honestly on what's really going on. I believe it is better

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Muralidhar A.
market for ccie ? [7:24297] Here's my thoughts * Yes, I know several CCIE's who are having trouble finding work. And yes, I know one guy who has 2 CCIE's (R/S and ISPDial) who is having trouble finding work. For those of you who think it might be due to lack of experience, the guys I am talking

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] Here's my thoughts * Yes, I know several CCIE's who are having trouble finding work. And yes, I know one guy who has 2 CCIE's (R/S and ISPDial) who i

RE: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Dan Faulk
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy

Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy is bad right now. Don't worry - skilled people can always f

RE: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Dan Faulk
] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297] Excited about an economic downturn, eh? Reminds me of those kids in school who would remind the teacher that she didn't assign any homework. Dan Faulk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great poi

Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297] Excited about an economic downturn, eh? Reminds me of those kids in school who would remind the teacher that she didn't assign any homework. Dan Faulk wrote in message [EMAIL P

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Chuck Larrieu
for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy is bad right now. Don't worry - skilled people can always find work. there are going to be a lot of structural changes over the next few years. Keep your skills up. Keep a good

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Christopher Kolp
You're right... But for those with lesser skills, it is quite difficult to find employment. I've got 5 years in network administration, 2 using cisco and foundry products, and a ccna and I can't find a thing. yet at least. just my .02 ck On Friday, October 26, 2001, at 08:51 PM, Chuck

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread nrf
Here's my thoughts * Yes, I know several CCIE's who are having trouble finding work. And yes, I know one guy who has 2 CCIE's (R/S and ISPDial) who is having trouble finding work. For those of you who think it might be due to lack of experience, the guys I am talking about have at least 5

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Jonathan Hays
Yes !! Keep your spirits up, everyone. You may not have the employers lining up outside your door anymore. You may have to do more company research, interview preparation, etc. You may have to relocate. You may not get those 1999 salaries. But the jobs are there. Go out to Monster or Dice or