Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-03 Thread news
Hi I agree with you. Even cert like CCIE is getting less and less important for companies. I don't see the hype for CCIE that existed in 1999. I am currently working on it but wonder whether it is worth it yet or not. However, it is still a very difficult exam to pass. It is still very challen

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-03 Thread DAve Diaz
thats what drives change, cash flow. Dave >From: "nrf" >Reply-To: "nrf" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 03:14:35 -0500 > >Exactly. Anybody can get a job if they're willing to fl

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-11-02 Thread nrf
Exactly. Anybody can get a job if they're willing to flip burgers, but of course people who earn the CCIE are going to expect something a little better than that. That is my point exactly. The CCIE may no longer earn you much of a premium in the market any more. It's not 1999. ""VoIP Guy""

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-29 Thread VoIP Guy
It certainly dosen't hurt to get a CCIE. The world is never going to throw itself at you, so go out and learn as much as you can and get your CCIE. If you can't get a job with a CCIE, you have other problems. I am just a CCNP and I can get a job. ""nrf"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">n

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-28 Thread RB Jón Eggert Guðmundsson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] I don't like discouraging anybody or making anybody feel bad. But on the other hand, I would be doing everybody here a disservice if I didn't report honestly on what's really going on. I believe i

Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
asons. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > nrf > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297] > > > Excited about an economic d

RE: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Dan Faulk
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297] Excited about an economic downturn, eh? Reminds me of those kids in school who would remind the teacher that she didn't assign any homework. ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] > > > for those who've never seen one in their adult working live

RE: is it really bad market for CCIE ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Dan Faulk
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is a serious downturn, and yeah,

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread nrf
Murali > > -Original Message- > From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] > > > Here's my thoughts > > * Yes, I know several CCIE

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-27 Thread Muralidhar A.
This no Good for the spirits of those who r preparing for CCIE Like me :-((( Well trust What ever happens Happens for Good. Murali -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is it really bad

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Jonathan Hays
Yes !! Keep your spirits up, everyone. You may not have the employers lining up outside your door anymore. You may have to do more company research, interview preparation, etc. You may have to relocate. You may not get those 1999 salaries. But the jobs are there. Go out to Monster or Dice or whate

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread nrf
Here's my thoughts * Yes, I know several CCIE's who are having trouble finding work. And yes, I know one guy who has 2 CCIE's (R/S and ISPDial) who is having trouble finding work. For those of you who think it might be due to lack of experience, the guys I am talking about have at least 5 years

Re: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Christopher Kolp
You're right... But for those with lesser skills, it is quite difficult to find employment. I've got 5 years in network administration, 2 using cisco and foundry products, and a ccna and I can't find a thing. yet at least. just my .02 ck On Friday, October 26, 2001, at 08:51 PM, Chuck Larr

RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]

2001-10-26 Thread Chuck Larrieu
for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy is bad right now. Don't worry - skilled people can always find work. there are going to be a lot of structural changes over the next few years. Keep your skills up. Keep a good att