Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-28 Thread John Neiberger
Also worth looking at is the hardware component: what will run on the hardware you've already got (if anything)? IF you already have most or all of the hardware pieces to implement Cisco's version, then Cisco's probably makes sense. IF you already have the requisite Nortel gear (Passports?),

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-27 Thread Nakul Malik
Thanks Anlee. I used to work for GTL a while back and they told us that passport was at heart running on FR. When i say passport, i refer to 6480/7480 etc., not 8600, which most people, including me still refer to as Accelar. I agree with u on the backplane statement though. Everything happens

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 5:55 AM + 7/27/03, Nakul Malik wrote: Thanks Anlee. I used to work for GTL a while back and they told us that passport was at heart running on FR. When i say passport, i refer to 6480/7480 etc., not 8600, which most people, including me still refer to as Accelar. I agree with u on the

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread Nakul Malik
passport at heart an ATM switch/ Passport is FR. -Nakul annlee wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Neiberger wrote: I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive answer from them but it

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread annlee
Nakul Malik wrote: passport at heart an ATM switch/ Passport is FR. -Nakul annlee wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Neiberger wrote: I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 2:22 PM + 7/26/03, Nakul Malik wrote: passport at heart an ATM switch/ Passport is FR. -Nakul The Passport is internally a cell switch, onto which Nortel has overlaid a great many other features. Before I went to work for Nortel, I consulted on the BGP implementation, and

RE: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread Reimer, Fred
are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Nakul Malik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread p b
dre wrote: I, personally, do not want to get heavily into it. It's not mature technology, and it's all bad, IMO. There are a few solid technologies...and they are mostly the ones that were implemented first. Sure, MPLS-VPN with 2547 is great, but it scales horribly and is difficult to

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread Peter van Oene
I'm curious if anyone has talked to their SP and has thought about leveraging MPLS carrier's carrier approach? Not sure how many SPs, if any, support this currently, but seems to have the right scaling properties if you're an ISP. And with the ability for eBGP to carry labels for BGP routes

RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-25 Thread John Neiberger
I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive answer from them but it appears that their PRN service is 2764-based, which apparently means it does not use MPLS like 2547-based VPNs. I'm curious about the implications

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-25 Thread dre
John Neiberger wrote in message ... I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive answer from them but it appears that their PRN service is 2764-based, which apparently means it does not use MPLS like 2547-based

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-25 Thread
hey, John, I understand there is an update to RFC 2549, due out Real Soon Now, which might help you out here. John Neiberger wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-25 Thread annlee
John Neiberger wrote: I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive answer from them but it appears that their PRN service is 2764-based, which apparently means it does not use MPLS like 2547-based VPNs. I'm