Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-22 Thread LongTrip
Tim, If you have not hard configured the MAC address then it will be the MAC of the "virtual router". This MAC address is a combination of 3 things; vendor code, well known HSRP virtual MAC address, and the group number of the active router. Below are listed some sources of information. http://

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 12:17 AM 6/22/02, Tim Potier wrote: >Lets say I have HSRP configured on a series of routers... I know clients are >sending packets to the MAC/IP of the well known "virtual MAC" with Cisco >equipment. Assume the receiving station recieves the packet directly from >the router participating in HS

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams
"Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > At 12:17 AM 6/22/02, Tim Potier wrote: > >Lets say I have HSRP configured on a series of routers... I know clients are > >sending packets to the MAC/IP of the well known "virtual MAC" with Cisco > >equipment.

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
There might be a Howard-inspired lesson in this. ;-) In the Control Plane, the host ARPs for its default gateway, which in this case is configured to be the HSRP virtual IP address of the routers. In the Management Plane, the routers talk amongst themselves to make sure that the virtual IP and

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-22 Thread Tim Potier
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Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Kim Graham
This brings up a question. I understand that after the initial "hi I will be handling your requests please use me as your destination mac address". (Router talking to client). But what happens when the initial router fails and HSRP kicks in? After an unreachable, would ClientA send out an arp o

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Michael L. Williams
This isn't quite right. See comments below. "Kim Graham" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This brings up a question. I understand that after the initial "hi I will > be handling your requests please use me as your destination mac address". > (Router talking to cl

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Chuck
Sometimes I suspect we get lost in forest, and all we can see are the trees. Let's look at this from the perspective of how data is moved from here to there. Comments below: ""Kim Graham"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This brings up a question. I understand t

Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 10:19 AM 6/23/02, Kim Graham wrote: >This brings up a question. I understand that after the initial "hi I will >be handling your requests please use me as your destination mac address". >(Router talking to client). Well, there's not really an initial "hi," although I like the literary sound

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread LongTrip
So you are saying the client never sees the MAC address of RouterA? It only sees the MAC address of the "Virtual Router"? Kim > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > Date: 2002/06/23 Sun AM 11:29:24 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HSRP [7:47177

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Thomas E. Lawrence
address of the "Virtual Router"? > > Kim > > > > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > Date: 2002/06/23 Sun AM 11:29:24 EDT > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > > > > This isn't quite right. See comments bel

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Kevin Cullimore
the router is maintaining on the same ip network it will arp for the BIA of the IS's ethernet interface. - Original Message - From: "LongTrip" To: Sent: 23 June 2002 12:44 pm Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > So you are saying the client never sees the MAC address of

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread LongTrip
1:08:17 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > > Perhaps this will help explain > > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c > /ipcprt1/1cdip.htm#xtocid23 > > Yes, HSRP creates a single "virtual" IP

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Kevin Cullimore
way portion of the conversation, not the return path (although implementational specifics might force them to address the return path in some circumstances). - Original Message - From: "LongTrip" To: Sent: 23 June 2002 2:22 pm Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > hmmm maybe

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Chuck
ut that in the end what the customer wanted me to do wuld have put him at more risk than if he left things as they were. Not to mention the loss of bandwidth that HSRP would have created for him. > > > - Original Message - > From: "LongTrip" > To: > Sent: 23 June

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread LongTrip
I will keep that in mind while investigating this and other things. Thx :) Kim > > From: "Kevin Cullimore" > Date: 2002/06/23 Sun PM 03:08:54 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > > A useful notion to keep in mind is that hsrp and

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 3:08 PM -0400 6/23/02, Kevin Cullimore wrote: >A useful notion to keep in mind is that hsrp and its un-patented >counterparts (you'd think that during the past century, people would learn >from IBM's example, but apparently that isn't the case) are profoundly >asymmetric in scope: > >they are c

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Kevin Cullimore
23 June 2002 3:30 pm Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > ""Kevin Cullimore"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > A useful notion to keep in mind is that hsrp and its un-patented > > counterparts (you'd think that

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
have written and what others wrote? (Although doing your own research is a good idea too.) Priscilla >Kim > > > > > > > From: "Thomas E. Lawrence" > > Date: 2002/06/23 Sun PM 01:08:17 EDT > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Kevin Cullimore
nversations in different directions may be treated differently) is quite welcome. Comments? - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: 23 June 2002 3:54 pm Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > At 3:08 PM -0400 6/23/02, Kevin Cullimore wrote: > >A useful

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
----- >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: >Sent: 23 June 2002 3:54 pm >Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > > >> At 3:08 PM -0400 6/23/02, Kevin Cullimore wrote: >> >A useful notion to keep in mind is that hsrp and its un-patented >> >counterparts (y

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-23 Thread LongTrip
Comments in line. > > From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" > Date: 2002/06/23 Sun PM 08:19:23 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177] > > At 02:22 PM 6/23/02, LongTrip wrote: > >hmmm maybe there was a misunderstanding on my part of an ear

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-24 Thread Chuck
HSRP in edge routers and > more complex routing at a distribution tier. > > For that matter, people often don't consider L2 failover techniques > (e.g., UplinkFast and EtherChannel) with switches feeding the HSRP > routers as another aspect of no-single-point-of-failure. >

Re: Re: HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
RP in edge routers and > > more complex routing at a distribution tier. > > > > For that matter, people often don't consider L2 failover techniques > > (e.g., UplinkFast and EtherChannel) with switches feeding the HSRP > > routers as another aspect of no-single-point-of-