Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Brian
On 10 Oct 2000, Jay Hennigan wrote: If it's non-portable space belonging to your other upstream, I can see their point, as your other provider is no doubt advertising an aggregate and you'll see all of your traffic via Verizon in that case due to longest match, so you can't load-balance

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread ccie10
Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM To: Jason T. Carnevale Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon BGP On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote: The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another prov

RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Brian
From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:30 AM To: Sena, Elver Cc: Jason T. Carnevale; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Verizon BGP On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Sena, Elver wrote: Brian, At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Frank
MAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Verizon BGP On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Sena, Elver wrote: Brian, At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs. We will advertise the customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by Jason). By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurat

RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Dave Humphrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2000 15:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon BGP Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming

RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Jin Tam
0 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon BGP Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming at customer sites before with UUNET and other ISP's In my opinion if an ISP will not allow you to advertise ano

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread ccie10
in addition to aggregates - Original Message - From: "Dave Humphrey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: RE: Verizon BGP I've never heard of this practice either. An ISP will generally advertise his own address s

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
There may be some truth in both sides. As part of a multihoming strategy, it is perfectly reasonable for ISP 1 to advertise space associated with ISP2, when the space being advertised is a subset of the ISP 2's allocation, and ISP 1 learns about the prefix(es) from a mutual customer. It is

RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Jin Tam
PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Verizon BGP I've never heard of this practice either. An ISP will generally advertise his own address space or PI space. Never that belonging to another provider. Which AS are you supposed to use to originate the addresses from? Do you use a private AS number and strip

Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread Jin Tam
Does anyone here peer with Verizon or work for the NOC. These guys are telling me that I can't advertise an address block that doesn't belong to them. So, what the hell is the point of a BGP session if I can't advertise the same address through 2 or more providers. Also, I pointed my advertised

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread Brian
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jin Tam wrote: Does anyone here peer with Verizon or work for the NOC. These guys are telling me that I can't advertise an address block that doesn't belong to them. So, what the hell is the point of a BGP session if I can't advertise the same address through 2 or more

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread Julian Eccli
Brian: What was your point? You said the exact same thing as Jin. Jin: Escalate the issue. You possibly contacted 1st tier support. What you requested should be allowed unless their is something in your peering arrangement that does not provision for this. Push as hard as you need to for

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 9 Oct 2000 17:38:42 -0400, Jin Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Does anyone here peer with Verizon or work for the NOC. These guys are :telling me that I can't advertise an address block that doesn't belong to :them. So, what the hell is the point of a BGP session if I can't advertise :the same

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread NeoLink2000
In a message dated 10/10/00 12:09:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Push as hard as you need to for your answer since you are a customer of theirs and that means you are royalty! The only thing royal in terms of a telco is the royal crock of sh!t they give you for an

Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-09 Thread Brian
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote: The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is trying to dual home his site, which is