RE: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread David Raistrick
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > - > CL: does Bellsouth run their own backbone, or use someone else's? I ask Oh. I forgot. They /claim/ to peer with other NSPs at each of there, for lack of better term, megapops...but I've never seen anything /not/ go through uu, even when uu, or

RE: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread David Raistrick
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > CL: does Bellsouth run their own backbone, or use someone else's? I ask They back into uunet somewhere around atlanta, for this area at least. Bounces through 2-4 hops..the general idea seems to be to drop a pop at the CO of the lata, and frame all the

RE: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
comments below: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Raistrick Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191] On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, John Neiberger wrote: > It's important

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread John Neiberger
Certainly, your mileage may vary. That's why I prefaced that statement with "in our case". Since we've implemented our dual-homing strategy we haven't had any major issues that did not involve either the telco and our local loop or the next upstream router, usually on Verio's side. The Sprint

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread David Raistrick
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, John Neiberger wrote: > It's important to think about what we consider to be failures in our ISP > and then ask the question: "What are we protecting ourselves from?" In > our case, more often than not an outage is caused by downtime on our > directly connected router or a fa

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread John Neiberger
If you go with two ISPs, aggregation by the ISP you received the addresses from might cause some traffic-related issues you need to be aware of. Let's say you have a /24 from Bill's ISP and you then add an additional connection to Ted's ISP. You are running BGP with both and advertise your /24 f

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread Richard Chang
Daniel, Unless you are going to get your own IPs from ARIN, you don't have to worry about getting anything smaller than /24. Just like John said, if you are using IPs assigned from ISPs, they should do the aggregation job for you to make sure your IPs get global routability. If you could get two

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread John Neiberger
It's important to think about what we consider to be failures in our ISP and then ask the question: "What are we protecting ourselves from?" In our case, more often than not an outage is caused by downtime on our directly connected router or a failure on the physical link itself, between the CO a

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread Daniel Wilson
Thank you for the response, John. Accessibility from just about anywhere, especially in the US, keeps me happy too. But our ISPs have a tendency to mess up routing table entries or otherwise shut us off. We have outgrown a single T1, and want to add some redundancy. I need a solution that will

Re: advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread John Neiberger
Keep in mind what is actually occurring when using BGP. You are advertising prefixes from your AS into your provider's AS. They in turn either include your specific prefix in their announcements to other providers, or they aggregate your smaller prefix into larger advertisements. It is at this

advertising IP blocks [7:11191]

2001-07-06 Thread Daniel Wilson
We are looking into multi-homing our network and running BGP on our router. I was told by some of you before that some ISPs won't advertise a block of IP's smaller than /22 and many won't do any smaller than /24. That leads to this question. Are our ISPs the only ones that need to advertise our