netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-22 Thread koh jef
hi guys, can netbios,using port 137, 138 and 139 be routed thru WAN ??? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=71084&t=71084 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report mi

RE: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-22 Thread - jvd
Hello, NetBIOS is a non-routeable protocol. If you want to transport it over WAN links you will need to configure bridging. Check out: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk331/tk660/technologies_tech_ note09186a0080093d4d.shtml Regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/re

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-22 Thread Bikespace
I'd agree to NetBEUI not being routable, but surely NETBIOS over IP gotta be routable! What does a WINS server do for you, or LMHOST files? Bikespace ""- jvd"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > NetBIOS is a non-routeable protocol. If you want to transport it over WAN > link

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-22 Thread Henry D.
Since your question already assumes these port ranges, it would mean your question is really whether NetBIOS over TCP/IP can be routed. And as such, it can, just like any other IP traffic. ""koh jef"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > hi guys, > > can netbios,using port 137, 138 and 139 b

RE: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
koh jef wrote: > > hi guys, > > can netbios,using port 137, 138 and 139 be routed thru WAN ??? NetBIOS uses UDP and TCP which run on top of IP, which is routable over an IP internetwork, including WAN links. Routers don't forward broadcasts though, by default. When NetBIOS runs over UDP ports 1

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread jountao
Directed broadcastes are less of a burden as far as passing brodcasts for specific apps. indeed netbios is not routeble, to route it u use NBT or NBIPX ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" a icrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > koh jef wrote: > > > > hi guys, > > > > can netbios,using port 137

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread - jvd
Hi, I just want to make something clear. NetBIOS and NetBEUI were created by IBM and later found its way to Microsoft networks who changed it. - These protocols are non-routable in an IBM environment. - NetBEUI is non-routable in TCP/IP networks. - NetBIOS is non-routable without the help of NetB

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
jountao wrote: > > Directed broadcastes are less of a burden as far as passing > brodcasts for > specific apps. Directed broadcasts are not allowed on modern networks and are totally irrelevant to Windows networking anyway, which doesn't use them. > indeed netbios is not routeble, to route it u

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
NetBIOS is a session layer protocol. Of course it's routable. Yes, it's true that IBM invented NetBIOS. NetBEUI was the name of IBM's software module that implemented NetBIOS. It usually ran in conjunction with TOKREUI, by the way, which was driver software for Token Ring. NetBEUI didn't make an

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 6:15 PM + 6/23/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > >Two, it's important to understand that every layer makes calls to a layer >below and every layer offers services to a layer above. Because the service >interface of a layer, whether it be LLC or UDP, is well known (hopefully), >any upper l

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread - jvd
hi, i just have to say that i will never try to answer anything on this forum again. :-) once i tried to answer a question with regards to bgp and a 1720 router and only after howard helped us out was it clear that the processor does play an important role. ;-) this time only after the input from

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread John Neiberger
- jvd 6/23/03 4:06:36 PM >>> >hi, i just have to say that i will never try to answer anything on this >forum again. :-) > >once i tried to answer a question with regards to bgp and a 1720 router and >only after howard helped us out was it clear that the processor does play an >important role.

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Bikespace
There are too many smart arses around sometimes. The whole idea of a discussion group isn't for everyone to "Provide the right answer or beware". I think everyone would like to have a go sometimes, but there's that nagging doubt that you're going to make a big slip up. It's better I think when peop

RE: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Jamie Johnson
What about Donner and Blitz..., oops, different story -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netbios [7:71084] At 6:15 PM + 6/23/03, Priscilla

RE: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Monday, June 23, 2003 12:29 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: netbios [7:71084] > > >At 6:15 PM + 6/23/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >> >> >>Two, it's important to understand that every layer makes calls to a layer >>below and every layer offer

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
- jvd wrote: > > OT: > hi, i just have to say that i will never try to answer anything > on this forum again. :-) Well, would that be Grumpy, Bashful, Sleepy, or Dopey to do that? :-) Seriously, you should keep answering. You have sent some great answers, but you don't want to keep insisting some

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread j k
hi pple, well the reason why i ask this is because, recently i was told by my network manager that there is a virus which uses netbios (udp 137, tcp 138 and tcp 139) as a transport and had acrosses the WAN from a spoke site to a hub site. And i was told to put an ACL by blocking the above port on t

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread ericbrouwers
; Have fun! :-) Eric Brouwers - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:50 AM Subject: Re: netbios [7:71084] > - jvd wrote: > > > > OT: > > hi, i just have to say that i will never try to answer anything > &g

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread annlee
Since the original question related to virus and certain ports, etc., here's a good reference to keep an eye on: http://isc.incidents.org/ You'll notice which ports have the most activity by geographical region (there are marked differences). You can also look at the hyperlinks associated with ea

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread Carroll Kong
>From my /etc/services... netbios-ns 137/tcp#NETBIOS Name Service netbios-ns 137/udp#NETBIOS Name Service netbios-dgm 138/tcp#NETBIOS Datagram Service netbios-dgm 138/udp#NETBIOS Datagram Service netbios-ssn 139/tcp#NETBIOS Session Service netbios-ssn

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
cial NetBIOS specification, although in practice, the >NetBIOS version described in the IBM publication SC30-3587 LAN Technical >Reference: 802.2 and NetBIOS APIs is used as reference. >.." > >Have fun! >:-) >Eric Brouwers > >- Original Message ----- >From: "P

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
j k wrote: > > hi pple, well the reason why i ask this is because, recently i > was told by my network manager that there is a virus which uses > netbios (udp 137, tcp 138 and tcp 139) as a transport and had > acrosses the WAN from a spoke site to a hub site. The NetBIOS ports are infamous target

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
annlee wrote: > > Since the original question related to virus and certain ports, > etc., here's > a good reference to keep an eye on: > > http://isc.incidents.org/ Great! There you have it. NetBIOS port 137 at the top of the list. Since broadcasts aren't carried across a router, the attackers d

Re: netbios [7:71084]

2003-06-24 Thread j k
ok great referrences, thanks everybody, keep the forum live!!! :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=71312&t=71084 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report miscond