Re: [cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Come to think of it... we’d need to know if your 8851s are the pre-v8 hardware or v8 or above. V8 they went from class 3 to class 4. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote: That would be great. We’re concerned with out of the box

Re: [cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Ah. Yes. I saw that. Unbroken Link below for those interested. Issue is, it’s an old doc and has the 8851 listed as class 3. 8851s are now class 4. IEEE Power over Ethernet class 3 for hardware version prior to V08, class 4 for hardware version V08 and above. (From Data sheet and other newer

Re: [cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
That would be great. We’re concerned with out of the box 8851s. No side cars. Maybe add a few watts for USB powering of devices. We understand that they may request 30w on power up, then revert down to ~15w. Which means phones may not all come up at once if our power supplies are not

Re: [cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread NateCCIE
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/un ified-ip-phone-6900-series/solution_overview_c22-589129.html -Original Message- From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:12 PM To: voyp list, cisco-voip

Re: [cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
Sure, I can do that for you in the morning. Check the datasheet on the KEM as well - those draw different power. The A-KEM is supported with 1 per, BEKEM with 2 (big easy is BE, code name for the model). If you're running gear with a low budget, "show power inline detail" tells you what

[cisco-voip] 8851 - power draw

2020-02-06 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Does anyone have a bunch of 8851s deployed? Can I trouble you for a "show inline power" output? I'm looking for what normal operating power draw is for this model. No side cars, no USB, sort of thing. I've got an 8865 showing 12.9W, and I'm hoping it's less. We're looking at selecting 8841 or

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Anthony Holloway
Not too mention, Cisco doesn't consistently apply the bootable VS non-bootable policy to their apps. E.g., IM and UCCX ISOs from CCO are bootable. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:30 PM Charles Goldsmith wrote: > I'm 100% beside you, I've yet to see them look at it, just not something > I'm willing

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I'm 100% beside you, I've yet to see them look at it, just not something I'm willing to risk though. With the way licensing is these days, the restrictions of bootable ISO downloads is kinda silly. I see no reason why they restrict it, since if we really wanted to, we can download the publicly

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Ryan Huff
Totally see your point. While I guess it may be a possibility, TAC has never, in my experience, come close to digging that deep to look for an exit from a support request (which is conceivably why they would look that deep since it poses no functional risk). In my 20+ years of experience with

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Ryan Huff
Perhaps, less inefficiencies of the tool and rather my disposition. I have every ISO since 7.5.x. It’s far easier for me to address offline and go, than to download from eDelivery (which isn’t PUT, but rather a result of the PUT process), so perhaps misplaced blame.. Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Agreed, but I've never done this for a customer, and here is my reasoning. >From my understanding, when you install/upgrade, the md5 of the iso used is written into the logs or a file on the system. If TAC were so inclined, they could tell if you installed from valid media or not. Granted, I've

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Wes Sisk (wsisk) via cisco-voip
When last I looked PUT fulfillment was by electronic posting and download in countries where that is legal. Some geo’s require physical media and the creates a shipping limitation. What inefficiency do you experience with PUT? Thanks, Wes On Feb 6, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Ryan Huff

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Wes Sisk (wsisk) via cisco-voip
this. When last I looked: PUT does create a sales order which helps address any licensing questions, re-issues, etc. ‘Upgrade’ media isn’t always the same as install media. PUT gets bootable install media in case of reinstall or disaster. And PUT doesn’t get the latest SU. PUT gets latest

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Ryan Huff
I can handle the bootable issue far faster and more efficiently than the PUT process can, which is one of the reasons why I’ve found PUT to not be super useful to me. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:33, Pawlowski, Adam wrote:  As far as I know, ordering from PUT creates a sales

Re: [cisco-voip] [PLM] muliple PAKs and One license request?

2020-02-06 Thread ROZA, Ariel
*Smacks his head* Thanks, Anthony De: Anthony Holloway Enviado el: jueves, 6 de febrero de 2020 12:45 Para: ROZA, Ariel CC: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] [PLM] muliple PAKs and One license request? You can register more than one PAK at a time, up to 10.

Re: [cisco-voip] [EXTERNAL] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Nick via cisco-voip
Thanks for the replies, I assumed this was the case, I actually did a PUT request to try and get the SU2 file but received SU1 instead which is no help as I am upgrading tomorrow evening? Looks like i'm good now. On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:33, Charles Goldsmith wrote: > I've had no problem

Re: [cisco-voip] [EXTERNAL] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I've had no problem upgrading customers from 10.5 to 12.5 su1 using the files downloaded from the support site. We only use PUT to get the upgrade SO# for licensing, and half of the time that's not even needed. PUT also gets you bootable iso's, but not always the latest SU. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020

Re: [cisco-voip] [EXTERNAL] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Ryan Huff
The PUT has been useless to me outside of some upgrade entitlement scenarios. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:29, JASON BURWELL via cisco-voip wrote:  I’ve always wondered the same thing so I’ll be interested to hear some other answers. PUT has never worked properly for me and no

Re: [cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
As far as I know, ordering from PUT creates a sales order number that is used for entitlement when migrating your licenses. It also gives you a bootable ISO or should. From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Nick via cisco-voip Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:20 AM To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Re: [cisco-voip] [EXTERNAL] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread JASON BURWELL via cisco-voip
I’ve always wondered the same thing so I’ll be interested to hear some other answers. PUT has never worked properly for me and no one has ever been able to tell me why so I pretty much just gave up on using that and I’ve downloaded software from CCO for upgrades. When I went from 10.5 to 11.5

[cisco-voip] 12.5 Upgrade files posted on CCO

2020-02-06 Thread Nick via cisco-voip
The upgrade files for CUCM 12.5 both SU1 and SU2 both state the following For upgrades from 12.x only. Upgrades from 11.x or earlier are requested via PUT Is this just incorrect wording as far as i am aware there has never been any different files for upgrades from 11 or 12, I have ordered

Re: [cisco-voip] [PLM] muliple PAKs and One license request?

2020-02-06 Thread Anthony Holloway
You can register more than one PAK at a time, up to 10. Would that work for you? [image: image.png] On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:25 AM ROZA, Ariel wrote: > Hi, guys. > > > > Is it posible to register multiple PAKS using the same License Request > from PLM? Or do I have to get a new License

[cisco-voip] [PLM] muliple PAKs and One license request?

2020-02-06 Thread ROZA, Ariel
Hi, guys. Is it posible to register multiple PAKS using the same License Request from PLM? Or do I have to get a new License Request after I load each license. I can´t find a clear answer so far. I have to register 5+ CUCM PAKs for a customer, and I have to be sure beforhand, so I don´t screw