Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-06 Thread Jim Maul
What good is it? It detects viruses! I'd say thats pretty good. -Jim > Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? > > > Noel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> At 03:03 PM 1/6/2005, Thalador Du'Fosnee wrote: >>>It is not deleting the messag

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-06 Thread Dennis Peterson
> > Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? I guess I wonder how much I trust a piece of software to decide what the pre-infected package looked like. I guess it would be a good trick for it to know every combination of every virus and every infected attachment that can b

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-06 Thread Noel Jones
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:12:02AM +, Thalador Du'Fosnee wrote: > Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? > "Cleaning" of viruses is a marketing ploy. Very few viruses in recent years "infect" files, they overwrite the good data in the file with their own code. Ther

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-06 Thread Vernon A. Fort
Noel Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:12:02AM +, Thalador Du'Fosnee wrote: Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? "Cleaning" of viruses is a marketing ploy. Very few viruses in recent years "infect" files, they overwrite the good data in the file with th

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-06 Thread Alex S Moore
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:12:02 + (UTC) "Thalador Du'Fosnee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? It sounds like you are implying that you want to receive mail that contains a virus. What good is that? I want nothing to do with infected m

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 6-Янв-2005 20:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to "ClamAV users ML" : >> Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? JM> What good is it? It detects viruses! I'd say thats pretty good. 1. When (I hope, not "if") disinfection will be implemented? 2. How handled vir

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Nigel Horne
On Friday 07 Jan 2005 17:30, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > 1. When (I hope, not "if") disinfection will be implemented? http://www.clamav.net/faq.htm, answer 26. -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bandsman.co.uk _

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread K. Shantanu
* Nigel Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050107 10:46]: > On Friday 07 Jan 2005 17:30, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > > > 1. When (I hope, not "if") disinfection will be implemented? > > http://www.clamav.net/faq.htm, answer 26. For records it is, http://www.clamav.net/faq.html i.e. faq.html and not faq.

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Lionel Bouton
Arkady V.Belousov wrote the following on 01/07/2005 06:30 PM : Hi! 6-Янв-2005 20:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to "ClamAV users ML" : Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? JM> What good is it? It detects viruses! I'd say thats pretty good. 1. When (I h

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 6-Янв-2005 21:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Noel Jones) wrote to clamav-users@lists.clamav.net: NJ> "Cleaning" of viruses is a marketing ploy. Not agreed. We use antiviruses from middle of 80th, and they save us many programs, which else be losted... NJ> after "cleaning" but a corrupted file.

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Maul
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 6-Янв-2005 20:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to "ClamAV users ML" : Ok, let me get this right. Clamav cannot clean? What good is it? JM> What good is it? It detects viruses! I'd say thats pretty good. 1. When (I hope, not "if") disinfection will be implemented

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 7-Янв-2005 13:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to ClamAV users ML : JM> make it into a users mailbox. ClamAV is not intended to be run after JM> the fact on an already infected machine. JM> I really dont see what the issue is here. You appear to be in a rare JM> situation Infecte

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Brian Morrison
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:22:56 +0300 (MSK) in [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Arkady V.Belousov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is only one example, that there is exists ways outside > internet. Those alternatives have been out-evolved in the main -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org d

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2005-01-07 22:22:56 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > 7-???-2005 13:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to ClamAV users ML > : > > JM> make it into a users mailbox. ClamAV is not intended to be run after > JM> the fact on an already infected machine. > JM> I really dont see what the issue is

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Maul
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 7-Янв-2005 13:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to ClamAV users ML : JM> make it into a users mailbox. ClamAV is not intended to be run after JM> the fact on an already infected machine. JM> I really dont see what the issue is here. You appear to be in a rare JM>

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Calvin Dodge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:38:41PM -0500, Jim Maul wrote: > Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > > And thats the problem. ClamAV wasnt really designed to be an av > solution on a home machine. It doesnt disinfect, quaratine, or have a > fancy gui like some other commercial av solutions. What it does do

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Maul
Calvin Dodge wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:38:41PM -0500, Jim Maul wrote: Arkady V.Belousov wrote: And thats the problem. ClamAV wasnt really designed to be an av solution on a home machine. It doesnt disinfect, quaratine, or have a fancy gui like some other commercial av solutions. What i

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 7-Янв-2005 18:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lionel Bouton) wrote to ClamAV users ML : >>1. When (I hope, not "if") disinfection will be implemented? LB> disinfection is implemented by your backup software, just restore the LB> last backup to restore infected files clamav will delete. If you don't LB>

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 7-Янв-2005 21:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter J. Holzer) wrote to ClamAV users ML : >> Infected machine _isn't_ _rare_ situation. PJH> No, but PJH> 1) I think real viruses which infect other programs are getting rare. For me, as victim of virus like CIH, is unimportant that this virus

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-07 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 7-Янв-2005 15:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to ClamAV users ML : >> JM> BBSes?? I ran one of those when i was 12... >> This is only one example, that there is exists ways outside internet. JM> Of course, but for open source software, how many methods can you really JM> expect?

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-08 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2005-01-08 03:06:56 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > 7-???-2005 21:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter J. Holzer) wrote to ClamAV users ML > : > > >> Infected machine _isn't_ _rare_ situation. > PJH> No, but > PJH> 1) I think real viruses which infect other programs are getting rare. > > Fo

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-08 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:18:27 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Peter J. Holzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) You don't need freshclam to do the updates, but if you update > manually, you also have to restart clamd and check for errors > manually. (And I guess most people here consider having

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-08 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2005-01-08 11:24:49 +, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:18:27 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Peter J. Holzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) You don't need freshclam to do the updates, but if you update > > manually, you also have to restart clamd and check for errors > >

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 8-Янв-2005 12:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter J. Holzer) wrote to ClamAV users ML : >> >> Infected machine _isn't_ _rare_ situation. >> PJH> 1) I think real viruses which infect other programs are getting rare. >> For me, as victim of virus like CIH, is unimportant that this virus is >>

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Freddie Cash
You're missing the main point of ClamAV: it's a server-based virus scanner for e-mail. It's not a workstation AV solution. Just because some people try to shoe-horn it into a workstation AV solution does not mean that it is designed for that purpose. Look at the virus database for ClamAV:

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Trog
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 16:53, Freddie Cash wrote: > You're missing the main point of ClamAV: it's a server-based virus > scanner for e-mail. > > It's not a workstation AV solution. Just because some people try to > shoe-horn it into a workstation AV solution does not mean that it is > designed

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Freddie Cash
On January 10, 2005 08:58 am, Trog wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 16:53, Freddie Cash wrote: > > You're missing the main point of ClamAV: it's a server-based virus > > scanner for e-mail. > > It's not a workstation AV solution. Just because some people try > > to shoe-horn it into a workstation

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2005-01-10 17:44:26 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > 8-???-2005 12:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter J. Holzer) wrote to ClamAV users ML > : > > >> >> Infected machine _isn't_ _rare_ situation. > >> PJH> 1) I think real viruses which infect other programs are getting rare. > >> For me, as

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Any way to add a line to cleaned email?

2005-01-10 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 10-Янв-2005 18:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter J. Holzer) wrote to ClamAV users ML : >> This is one reason, why I will not mess myself with NT/XP, and from >> Windows family prefer Win98, which I may handle outside it (from DOS). PJH> OTOH, the Windows NT family has a functional privilege sy