Re: Peer Interface Changes

1999-09-12 Thread Paul Fisher
Aaron M. Renn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just wanted to let you all know that in the case of the menu > classes, I modified our peer interface so that it is different from > the JDK's. Why did you decide to make this change? The GTK+ AWT peers currently function as drop-in replacement for

Re: Peer Interface Changes

1999-09-12 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Paul Fisher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I just wanted to let you all know that in the case of the menu > > classes, I modified our peer interface so that it is different from > > the JDK's. > > Why did you decide to make this change? > > The GTK+ AWT peers currently function as drop-in replac

Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Prasad, Ganesh C
Hi, Congratulations on your work on Classpath. I wish you all success on completing a free replacement for the 1.1 and 1.2 libraries. I am a Java developer and look forward to using Classpath with Japhar and Guavac on a GNU/Linux platform. P.S. I am however, a bit puzzled that you have package n

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Prasad, Ganesh C ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > P.S. I am however, a bit puzzled that you have package names beginning with > "gnu". Shouldn't that be "org.gnu" according to the Sun naming conventions? See the following for our position on this. http://www.gnu.org/software/java/why-gnu-packages.tx

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Chris Toshok
"Aaron M. Renn" wrote: > Prasad, Ganesh C ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > P.S. I am however, a bit puzzled that you have package names beginning with > > "gnu". Shouldn't that be "org.gnu" according to the Sun naming conventions? > > See the following for our position on this. > > http://www.gnu.o

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Chris Toshok ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I disagree with many, many things sun has done with java, and you may too. it > does (to me) seem a pointlessly small and rather silly battle to fight to say > "we're just going to use gnu instead of org.gnu." The package naming > recommendations sun has

org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-12 Thread Thomas Down
"Aaron M. Renn" wrote: > > I'm opposed to org.gnu for the same reason that I hate email addresses > of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] It purports to be some type of > globally unique identifier when in fact it is not. In the meantime, > it requires names that are extremely verbose. At my last comp

RE: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-12 Thread John Keiser
Wow, didn't know this many people were alive and computing on Sundays :) My two cents: gnu.* is a hell of a lot easier to use and think about than org.gnu.*. I still think it looks silly to import com.sun like in JavaDoc. But I perfectly understand them putting stuff they *don't* want other peop

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-12 Thread Brian Jones
"John Keiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frankly, there are only going to be a few major contributors whose toolkits > are going to be *extremely* widely used, and GNU is probably one of them. > Making it easy to type and use and think about (less mental friction) is a > good thing. > Althou

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Brian Jones
"Prasad, Ganesh C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Congratulations on your work on Classpath. I wish you all success on > completing a free replacement for the 1.1 and 1.2 libraries. I am a Java > developer and look forward to using Classpath with Japhar and Guavac on a > GNU/Linux platfor

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Thomas J Lukasik
Well said, Chris. -Original Message- From: Chris Toshok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Aaron M. Renn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Prasad, Ganesh C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Congratulations >"Aaron M. Renn" wrot

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Thomas J Lukasik
Regarding your comments: - "It's like making your hash table really, really big in the hopes you won't have a collision." The size of the domain name space is what it is, and isn't getting adjusted in any way to fill the need for package naming. "It purports to

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Wes Biggs
Thomas J Lukasik wrote: > it certainly **is** arrogant to think that they own the three letters 'GNU'. How can anyone own anything that's just a bunch of symbols? A word, say, or perhaps a computer program? A programming language? I don't think anyone is arguing that the abstract, conceptual

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Thomas J Lukasik
Wes, You are obviously unaware of the document at: http://www.gnu.org/software/java/why-gnu-packages.txt Allow me to quote from it: "There is no measurable benefit of using org.gnu instead of gnu. I refuse to be concerned over anybody who might use gnu as a package prefix without co-ordinatin

RE: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Prasad, Ganesh C
It's not too late to change to "org.gnu" if one has the will. After all, Sun changed from "com.sun.java.swing" to "javax.swing". The change caused some disruption, but was a welcome one. Using "org.gnu" would also impress Java developers outside the Free Software fold. Java developers like the

Re: Congratulations

1999-09-12 Thread Wes Biggs
Thomas J Lukasik wrote: > Wes, > > You are obviously unaware of the document at: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/java/why-gnu-packages.txt I'm quite aware of it. > Allow me to quote from it: Really, you'd have to ask Per for permission, but we'll assume, on the basis of his publicly stated opi

AWT First Pass Complete

1999-09-12 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Hello, all. I have completed coding my first cut at the AWT system. What does this mean? It means that all of the following packages are done: java.applet java.awt.datatransfer java.awt.event java.awt.peer Additionally, virtually all of java.awt is done. The exceptions are the classes Event (