Re: JDK source code

1999-02-18 Thread Moses DeJong
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Michael Emmel wrote: Ah... just being safe. There is nothing in the license agreement that I can see that stops someone who signed it from doing a clean room implementation as long as the Sun source is not referenced. Correct? ..darcy I recently posted a

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-18 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 17, 1999, Alex Nicolaou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, you've done something cool, and you want to give it to someone. In this case, the license binds you to two main restrictions. The first is that code in the JDK that you've modified must be returned to Sun for inclusion in the

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-18 Thread Alexander Nicolaou
On Feb 18, 1999, Alex Nicolaou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you only want to use your changes for research purposes - for students studying the ideas you have, for example, or as part of a thesis - you're not stuck. If you want to distribute the working code to end-users who aren't

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-18 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 18, 1999, Alexander Nicolaou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, if the transitive closure of all your users and their users are all using the software for research, you can distribute it freely and without payment or validation by Sun. Well, if Sun's license really allows me to

JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Artur Biesiadowski
Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is concerned ? I do understand that I should not look at sun's classes while writing for classpath, but they are available anyway in std distribution - question

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Stuart Ballard
Artur Biesiadowski wrote: Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is concerned ? IANAL, and I haven't read the license. However, personally I'll be avoiding it like the plague. My *guess

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Alex Nicolaou
Artur Biesiadowski wrote: And second question - can somebody summarize the license for me -for me it is lawyers garbage. This is my interpretation of the license as nearly as I understand it, without legal background or background in the laws of california nor any laws of the united states.

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any terms that they so desire, including the GPL. In the case of Jini at least (I don't know the

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Wes Biggs
In the case of Jini at least (I don't know the specifics of the JDK) the royalty is something like $0.10. So if you sell 100 copies of your software Sun makes $1. quipAre you using Microsoft Calculator again?/quip :-)

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
Arcy Smith Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JDK source code In the case of Jini at least (I don't know the specifics of the JDK) the royalty is something like $0.10. So if you sell 100 copies of your software Sun makes $1. quipAre you using Microsoft Calculator again?/quip :-)

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Moses DeJong
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, D'Arcy Smith wrote: And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any terms that they so desire, including the GPL. If the

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
-Original Message- On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, D'Arcy Smith wrote: And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any terms that they so

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Michael Emmel
Ah... just being safe. There is nothing in the license agreement that I can see that stops someone who signed it from doing a clean room implementation as long as the Sun source is not referenced. Correct? ..darcy I recently posted a suggestion to javalobby that Sun make periodice

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is concerned ? The source bundled distributed with the JDK is ok to download. I'm not familiar with the new source pacakge or its license. However, looking