Brian Jones wrote:
I'm not following Harmony too closely (so let me talk out my ... a
moment) but let me see if I understand it so far. Harmony is:
1) Writing their own class libraries (based on email about japi
comparisons)
2) Writing their own JVM (which I think is based in some part on on
Brian Jones wrote:
Harmony is:
...
3) Writing their own test suite (because Mauve doesn't use junit and
has a different license, but I think that's going to be fixed)
I think you are right that Apache are working on their own test suite.
In Mauve, work is being done on JUnit integratio
Okay, there is a solution that is rather expedient to fixing the
classpath/classlib licensing problems. The FSF has within it's power
the ability to relicense the software under new terms and conditions or
could in fact dual license the software under both the current license
and a suitable Ap
Brian Jones wrote:
So, given these things and my love for this project, I would really like
the FSF to allow the developers to provide Classpath under an Apache
compatible license in addition to the current licensing scheme, at least
I would support that idea. However, I don't think we requir
Brian Jones wrote:
I don't really see the FSF backing down from the point of view that the
users of free software should have the right to modify and release the
software and Apache is unlikely to change either, as they have benefited
enormously (in terms of brand at least) from letting anyone
Archie Cobbs wrote:
Brian Jones wrote:
So, given these things and my love for this project, I would really
like the FSF to allow the developers to provide Classpath under an
Apache compatible license in addition to the current licensing scheme,
at least
I would support that idea. However,
David Daney wrote:
So, given these things and my love for this project, I would really
like the FSF to allow the developers to provide Classpath under an
Apache compatible license in addition to the current licensing
scheme, at least
I would support that idea. However, I don't think we requi
On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Archie Cobbs wrote:
David Daney wrote:
So, given these things and my love for this project, I would
really like the FSF to allow the developers to provide Classpath
under an Apache compatible license in addition to the current
licensing scheme, at least
I woul
Casey Marshall gnu.org> writes:
> So sure, the FSF could release Classpath under
> the disjunction of the GPL and the ASL, if they saw it as fit to.
>
That would not be what the Apaches would want. Dual licensing is not acceptable
for the ASF, as far as I have been told.
The only way GNU Cla
Dalibor Topic wrote:
The only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict from
our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the ASF,
and had the ASF manage the project, under the Apache license. Anything else is
non-option for ASF, for a variety of r
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:20:02AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
> Dalibor Topic wrote:
> >The only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict
> >from
> >our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the
> >ASF,
> >and had the ASF manage the project, und
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:20 -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
> Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > The only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict
> > from
> > our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the
> > ASF,
> > and had the ASF manage the project, under
Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:20:02AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
Harmony appears to be basically an attempt at a hostile takeover of the
Free Java movement. They're all in favor of cooperation - as long as
it is 100% on their terms. Complete surrender is all they will accept.
Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:20:02AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
Dalibor Topic wrote:
The only way GNU Classpath would be acceptable for Apache Harmony, afaict
from
our dicussions in the past year, would be if the FSF contributed it to the
ASF,
and had the ASF manage
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