Re: Re: Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-30 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi,  Von: Amitha Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED]   On Mon 29 May 2006, William A. Hoffman wrote: There is a wxWidgets GUI in CVS. The question is, would a GUI make the configure command line people happy, or will there always be a group that wants a -- style command line like configure. A

Re: Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-29 Thread Alexander Neundorf
 Von: Thomas Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED]   On Friday 26 May 2006 17:55, you wrote: A 'configure' script generator that will just convert between the (good old) configure and the cmake foo.  Makes it actually possible to discover what features there are without consulting online

Re: Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-29 Thread William A. Hoffman
At 02:42 AM 5/29/2006, Alexander Neundorf wrote: There is ccmake on UNIX and (the more powerful) cmakesetup on Windows for this job. What is missing is something like a qcmake, which would add a nice GUI to all available options. There is a wxWidgets GUI in CVS. The question is, would a GUI

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-29 Thread Axel Roebel
On Monday 29 May 2006 18:00, William A. Hoffman wrote: There is ccmake on UNIX and (the more powerful) cmakesetup on Windows for this job. What is missing is something like a qcmake, which would add a nice GUI to all available options. There is a wxWidgets GUI in CVS.  The question is,

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-28 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 26 May 2006 21:00, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: The problem with the use-(g)make decision is that you are stuck with using unintuitive variable names to alter the build process.   Then dump it and develop with VC++.  Or some other compiler with a better (or just different ;-)

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-28 Thread Brandon J. Van Every
Thomas Zander wrote: But, to directly answer your assertion; the most human feeling of me feeling lost when there is something new to learn is not the reason for my emails here. I honestly find it counter productive of you to go for that excuse. Its soo easy. The suggestions I made here are

RE: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-28 Thread James Mansion
When I change a couple of header files I suddenly see it reconfiguring for no apparent reason. Is the generated makefile thinking that there is a change in CMakeLists.txt somewhere? Surely cmake is actually out of the picture unless you tell it to rebuild the makefiles? Its when I type 'make'

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-28 Thread Thomas Zander
On Sunday 28 May 2006 15:39, James Mansion wrote: Its when I type 'make' it takes upto a minute before it actually starts with the first gcc, even if I typed make moments before. (I just typed 'make | less' this time). That looks like make's performance problem doesn't it? I don't see how

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-28 Thread William A. Hoffman
At 10:56 AM 5/28/2006, Thomas Zander wrote: On Sunday 28 May 2006 15:39, James Mansion wrote: Its when I type 'make' it takes upto a minute before it actually starts with the first gcc, even if I typed make moments before. (I just typed 'make | less' this time). That looks like make's

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 26 May 2006 21:42, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: Another issue is that an autoconf ./configure script typically relies on libtool.  You don't wanna go there. Read my other mails in this thread please; its the NAME ONLY I suggested to use. If the configure script is just 4kb and does

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread William A. Hoffman
At 07:30 AM 5/26/2006, Thomas Zander wrote: Hiya; In KDE (including KOffice) we switched to cmake, as you are probably aware. I naturally like the speedups we got in linking etc. but I like the less then stellar usability of the cmake solution a lot less. (at this point I would gladly go back

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 26 May 2006 16:24, you wrote: I am not sure I understand what you want to type to do the build? williamMake would do; of wmake if you want. :) Bottom line; I don't care what the name is as long as it _can_ be made more usable. Which is impossible with make. You apparently are

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Brad King
Thomas Zander wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 16:24, you wrote: I am not sure I understand what you want to type to do the build? williamMake would do; of wmake if you want. :) Bottom line; I don't care what the name is as long as it _can_ be made more usable. Which is impossible with make.

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Craig Bradney
On Friday 26 May 2006 17:05, Thomas Zander wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 16:24, you wrote: I am not sure I understand what you want to type to do the build? williamMake would do; of wmake if you want. :) Bottom line; I don't care what the name is as long as it _can_ be made more usable.

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread William A. Hoffman
At 11:05 AM 5/26/2006, Thomas Zander wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 16:24, you wrote: I am not sure I understand what you want to type to do the build? williamMake would do; of wmake if you want. :) Bottom line; I don't care what the name is as long as it _can_ be made more usable. Which is

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread frederic heem
On Friday 26 May 2006 17:52, Craig Bradney wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 17:05, Thomas Zander wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 16:24, you wrote: I am not sure I understand what you want to type to do the build? williamMake would do; of wmake if you want. :) Bottom line; I don't care what

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 26 May 2006 17:55, you wrote: A 'configure' script generator that will just convert between the (good old) configure and the cmake foo.  Makes it actually possible to discover what features there are without consulting online documentation ;) I am not sure about what you want

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Lloyd Hilaiel
Yo Thomas, We use cmake to build a large project (10 or so different SDKs). In our case, we too wanted a cmakebuild tool, so we wrote one. It wraps the native build tools with a higher level of commands build debug build release run tests package SDKs etc. Some of the commands for this build

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Filipe Sousa
Lloyd Hilaiel wrote: Yo Thomas, We use cmake to build a large project (10 or so different SDKs). In our case, we too wanted a cmakebuild tool, so we wrote one. It wraps the native build tools with a higher level of commands build debug build release run tests package SDKs etc. Some of

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 26 May 2006 18:02, frederic heem wrote: Actually, I wonder why CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE  is not set to TRUE by default, each time, I have to set it manually and I find it quite annoying. Everyone I know gave a sigh of relieve when unsermake (2 years ago) introduced the concept of

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Brandon J. Van Every
Thomas Zander wrote: Its because it slows me down a lot. When I change a couple of header files I suddenly see it reconfiguring for no apparent reason. Its when I type 'make' it takes upto a minute before it actually starts with the first gcc, even if I typed make moments before. (I just

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Brandon J. Van Every
Thomas Zander wrote: I have helped a set of people on irc to get started with koffice compiling using cmake. They all had a lot of problems with the arcane variables like the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX and most people find that D in front a bit weird a well. So; instead of letting the user

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread Brandon J. Van Every
Filipe Sousa wrote: There is always ccmake and cmakeseup. Another option is to create a tool called "cconfigure" for those who like configure scripts. That shouldn't be to hard to implement. cconfigure --help would show the same options as ccmake: $ ./cconfigure --help --cmake_build_type

Re: [CMake] What about...

2006-05-26 Thread William A. Hoffman
At 05:03 PM 5/26/2006, Axel Roebel wrote: cmake --help cmake variables --build_type Choose the type of build, options are: ... --install_prefix Install path prefix, prepended onto install directories --verbose_make If this value is on, makefiles will be project options --USE_FOOBAR