Re: Stus-List Replacing fuel level sending unit on Monel tank with non-standard flange holes

2013-07-11 Thread Knowles Rich
Bryan: If you have fasteners that will hold well in the existing 5 holes you show that line up with the gasket, I think I would use them along with a good appropriate fuel-safe sealer. The flange is starting to resemble Swiss cheese and I would avoid drilling any more holes if possible. If you

Re: Stus-List Replacing fuel level sending unit on Monel tank with non-standard flange holes

2013-07-11 Thread Josh Muckley
You could tap the unused holes and fill them with a lock tighted set screws flush with the face of the flange. You really need to be able to pull the mounting screws tight. If the tank material is thick enough that you can tap the existing holes I would do so. If not, use a product called a

Re: Stus-List Introduction and Club Island harbor

2013-07-11 Thread Peter Delean
About Club Island: I was surprised at the depths. We anchored in over 12 feet. There were two other boats there with conservative anchorages. Wind was from the SW so we headed for a SW location in the harbour. Look at our SPOT track of the trip. First green OK signal is Club Island. You

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Peter Delean
The gastric reflux of the head seems to be gravity related, and only happens when the boat is moving in waters with some wave activity. The bowl half fills, requiring a dry flush to clear it again. Upon arrival, we had the holding tank pumped out, but haven't tested since. I suspect it has

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread dwight veinot
Probably caused by siphoning action.do you have a vented loop in the discharge line? Like this one: http://ca.binnacle.com/Plumbing- http://ca.binnacle.com/Plumbing--Pumps-Plumbing-Hardware/c31_264/p2249/FOR ESPAR-1-1/2%2334-VENTED-LOOP/product_info.html

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Add my welcome as well.  I have a '73 CC 30 and it sails very well. I raced with a friend in the Chi-Mac race back around '87 in a sistership.   Held up well even in the storm that came through. Ron  Wild Cheri STL From: Aaron Rouhi admiralmag...@outlook.com

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Josh, I'm with ya! Ever since I saw the design of the CC 37+ back in 1989, I thought -- perfection! When I was boat shopping in 2005, I finally got to step aboard one and I couldn't write the check fast enough. I mean -- just look at this deck plan and accommodation plan -- It

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Edd Are we really supposed to believe that was water? Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time Josh,

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Mike, That's my story and I'm sticking to it. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:48 AM,

Stus-List Chesapeake Rendezvous - Weekend with Joe at

2013-07-11 Thread TOM VINCENT
I will register today for the race on the 27th and dinner at CRYC. It looks like GOB should be a fun fleet. Tom Vincent Frolic II 1979 CC 36 cb ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Gary Nylander
As the owner of #593, also a 1980, for almost 20 years, I can make a few comments. Congratulations. Electrical - one of the previous owners (I am number 3) had the electrical updated. There is a 120 volt panel to the left of the sink with six circuit breakers, for the 120 volt outlets, battery

Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Tom B
I have been holding off because it is impossible for me to be objective about my boat. But since you brought it up Josh, I wholeheartedly agree. I think the 37+/40 and the race version, the R,are the sweetest, prettiest, bestest CCs ever! Thanks for bringing it up. Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I never really understood the loop in the discharge line. If your discharge line feeds the tank on top of the tank, in the middle, how would the contents of the holding tank get back into the hose? I understand not everyone's setup is this way ... and I'm only chiming in because I'm about to plumb

Re: Stus-List Introduction, 1980 CC 30 upgrades

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Peter -- welcome to the best place for all things CC! (And thanks to Stu for making it all possible.) +1 on Martin's suggestion for using Blue Sea Systems panels. I used to be an ABYC-certified boat electrical guy, and have installed quite a lot of Blue Sea gear, all of it top notch. Make

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread HONEYSAIL
Honey had the same issue last summer, the culprit was a faulty joker valve. Jack Fitzgerald CC 39TM HONEY US12788 In a message dated 7/11/2013 11:28:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stevanpla...@gmail.com writes: I never really understood the loop in the discharge line. If your discharge

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Jim Reinardy
I just replaced the joker valve in my Jabsco and was amazed at the difference it made clearing up the same issue. The old one did not seem that bad, but they definitely do degrade over time. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 Firewater Milwaukee, WI Sent from my iPad On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:38 AM,

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Peter -- I'd suggest you look at something like this for your main panel: http://www.bluesea.com/products/8084/AC_Main_%2B_6_Positions_DC_Main_%2B_15_Positions Then use this for your newly-redone battery system: :^) http://www.bluesea.com/products/8080/Dual_Battery_Bank_Management_Panel Fred

Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Indigo
I know this has been discussed umpteen times, but I have never thought to try and decipher Indigo's HIN until now and realize I have deleted all those useful emails Indigo's HIN is ZCC35039M83J From memory I think this means ZCC - made in Canada? 35 - Model 35 M - no clue 83 -

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Joel Aronson
ZCC = CC 039 is your hull # No idea on M J Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Indigo ind...@thethomsons.us wrote: I know this has been discussed umpteen times, but I have never thought to try and decipher Indigo’s HIN until now and realize I have deleted all those useful

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Gary Nylander
Fred, I was advised a number of years ago that ABYC standards dictated that the AC and DC panels should be separated. Is that still true? Gary - Original Message - From: Frederick G Street To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:46 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Jonathan -- looks correct. The M indicates that the numbering is for model year. You're hull #039. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Indigo ind...@thethomsons.us wrote: I know this has been discussed umpteen times, but

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Nope -- you just need some sort of cover over the back of the panels; and it's a good idea to physically separate the AC and DC breaker rows. Blue Sea makes covers for this: http://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Panel_Accessories/Back_Covers Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979

Re: Stus-List Club Island Harbour Correction

2013-07-11 Thread Peter Delean
Correction: On SPOT route Club Island is second green OK signal. Message: 10 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:50:06 -0400 From: Peter Delean pdel...@eastlink.ca To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: oldste...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Introduction and Club Island harbor Message-ID:

Re: Stus-List Introduction

2013-07-11 Thread Dave Godwin
Peter, I did a complete refit of the electrical system on my boat and I second what Fred suggested. I chose similar items and have nothing but great things to say about the Blue Sea panels and systems. I used these for my main panels, 120 VAC and 12 VDC. I didn't go with meters because I

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Steve Thomas
The M stands for the model year format of HIN, as opposed to an actual year format. There are 4 recognized formats altogether, each similar but with variations in the data fields. If your HIN had ended with an A for example, it would have been produced in August 1982, but still been considered a

Stus-List HIN again

2013-07-11 Thread Bob Hickson
ZCC35039M83J The M is meaninglessit just identifies the HIN as 1 of 3 different numbering methods ZCC - Built in Niagara on the Lake 35 - CC 35 039 - the 39th boat built M - no meaning 83 - built in 1983 J - built in May (new production year started in August = A so J designates

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Bill Bina
http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm Bill Bina On 7/11/2013 11:50 AM, Indigo wrote: I know this has been discussed umpteen times, but I have never thought to try and decipher Indigo's HIN until now and realize I have deleted all those useful emails Indigo's HIN is ZCC35039M83J

Stus-List Chesapeake Rendezvous - Weekend with Joe a

2013-07-11 Thread rick bushie
Yeah, fun for all the big boats! Just don't put me in the middle of the raft-up...and save me some chicken! Rick Anchovy ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Woody Hamel
Hi Steve, I just want to say hi and I'm pretty sure I married a friend of yours Dave Body's daughter Jean. It would be nice to meet you when we come down St. Thomas and to Port Stanley's way. It is a small world. Our HIN is ZCC260270477. Does this mean made in Canada (where I don't know),

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR
Try this link: http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm -Keith -Original Message- From: Indigo [mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry I know this has been discussed umpteen times, but I

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Woody Hamel
Thx Keith, Looks like a good website, and confirms my HIN, will bookmark it for future reference. But is 1977, 26ft a mark III anyone? Cheers, Woody Goldfinch 26 Mk? Pickering ON Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Bill Bina
I could be wrong, but I don't think there were different Mark versions of the 26. There was just the 26, and the later 26 Wave, which looks sort of like a pre-cursor of the 27 Mark V, except it had a wing keel and very shoal draft. I have never seen a Wave in the flesh. Has any one ever seen

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Dennis C.
Is the CC Wave like the CC smile?  The admiral waves at other boats as we transit the ICW.  :) Sorry, Bill.  It's been one of those days. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Bill Bina billb...@sbcglobal.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent:

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Woody Hamel
Thx Bill, That is interesting and helpful. Cheers, Woody Goldfinch 26 Pickering ON Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. -Original Message- From: Bill Bina billb...@sbcglobal.net Date:

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Indigo
I had a slightly different but equally irritating problem. When pumping water in to flush, there would be an annoying leak of fresh water at the place where the handle entered the pump. A friend recommended pouring head lube into the head, pumping it through the pump, and letting it stay there

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Ken Heaton
Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this. The 37+ is the last and best of the Rob Ball CC's. (Yes Rob did the 34+ just after but the 34+ is just a baby 37+) Oh, and if you have never seen the aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like this:

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Richard N. Bush
Ken, I've seen lots of the white interiors, how in the hell do you guys keep them looking so good? Richard 1987 33-II (without a white interior) Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Ken

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Joel Aronson
I have to admit, that cabin is sweet! In 5 years with hen I have time for extended cruising I hope one of you 37+ owners will be ready to move on to your next boat! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com wrote: Of course I'm with Josh

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Joel, Give me a buzz in 5 years. After all, there are plenty of more letters in the alphabet. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Ken, Is that interior your boat? I'm especially fascinated/interested in those (wood?) ceiling panels on each side of the mast and over the support railing in the galley. What are they made of? What make are those bright lights on either side of the mast? I have some white

Stus-List what masthead anchor light is it?

2013-07-11 Thread dreuge
Hi, I took a photo of the top of my mast while I was up there this weekend. The photo at the link below shows the anchor light. Does anyone recognize the light? While it is working fine, I have no clue what make/model it is, how to replace the bulb, or what type bulb/LED replacement it

Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Gallagher
...And since the 30MKII is the smaller of the three, (37+, 34+, 30MKII) and the fact that it had to be the first 30 ft racer cruiser with an aft cabin, aft head, walk through transom, and full standing 6'2+ headroom throughout makes it the bestest CC ever :)

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread dwight veinot
Sorry can't agree with you on the 30 MKII Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gallagher Sent: July 11, 2013 6:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Best CC's of

Re: Stus-List what masthead anchor light is it?

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Paul -- that looks like an AquaSignal Series 22, part #22040. It uses a ten-watt lamp, but I don't know what base. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:16 PM, dre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I took a photo of the top of my mast

Re: Stus-List what masthead anchor light is it?

2013-07-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Paul -- the lamp is a 10-watt festoon, AquaSignal part #90022. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: Paul -- that looks like an AquaSignal Series 22, part #22040. It uses a

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Ken Heaton
Yup, that's our interior. The panels are made of a 3/16 thick teak veneer plywood, cut using the old plastic panels as patterns. We replaced the two next to the mast, the one over the galley sink and the one over the walkway to the aft cabin. We left the white plastic one in the heads as it is

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Ken Heaton
A better view of the overhead panels: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XslQftYEYkE/T0rc5vKiWBI/AFA/tjA6Yl1yZ04/w1364-h1023-no/IMG_1776.JPG and a closeup of the panel over the passageway aft:

Stus-List CC 37+ Overhead Panels

2013-07-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Dammit Ken, You just gave me #1 on my winter project list. That looks amazing! If I didn't love ya, I'd hate ya. Anyone know of a good resource for 3/16 teak or marine plywood? All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City

Re: Stus-List CC 37+ Overhead Panels

2013-07-11 Thread coltrek
That looks like the Luuuvv Boat! Wild Bill CC 39 Original message From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: 07/11/2013 7:58 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 37+ Overhead Panels Dammit Ken, You just gave me #1 on my winter project list.

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Jake Brodersen
Peter, That sounds like just a bad joker valve in the head. Cheap and easy to replace. It does involve getting a little dirty though. Jake Jake Brodersen CC 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940 From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Martin DeYoung
I never really understood the loop in the discharge line. The vented loop is indeed to prevent a syphon from beginning. I have the vented loops for all hoses that can access raw water in quantities that would create a flooding. (head discharge and engine raw water especially) I have also

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Dave Godwin
Yup. As someone who had a boat sink in it's slip because of a back-siphon issue (my fault) I'm keenly aware of the importance of well maintained siphon loops. Cheers, Dave 1982 CC 37 - Ronin On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: I never really understood the loop in the

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Chuck S
Ken, Love your website and your boat. Have to argue your comment. You are right, the 34/36 came after the 37/40, but the CC 51s were Rob's last designs, completed at the same time as the 34/36s. Having owned a 34R for 10 years and raced against a 34plus and a 37plus, I think the 34plus is a

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Chuck S
I think he meant the 33 MkII? It's all in the details. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:26:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Chuck S
Don't scare the kids! Sounds like you are doing things right already, but the kids are pretty young for cruising and won't remember much of it. Plan you adventures and just don't scare the kids. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: Woody Hamel

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time...Per Rob Ball

2013-07-11 Thread Chuck S
Exactly! Rob Ball never hinted at a favorite design. He didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Stu's website has a story that Rob used the CC employee discount to buy/build a 34 back in the day. Wonder how that went. I doubt Evergreen was a boat he'd ever want to own. It was a strange rule

Stus-List Wave 26

2013-07-11 Thread Mark G
Bill, There was a CC Wave 26 for sale around here (SE Mass) about 5 years ago, but it's the only one I've ever heard of. I think it was an '86, while production of the 27 Mk V started in either '83 or '84. But honestly, if one was bobbing around on a mooring right next to me, I'd assume

Re: Stus-List CC Yawl

2013-07-11 Thread Mark G
This boat is at my boatyard. I've walked by it a dozen times over the last few weeks and admired it without even a thought it might be a CC. It doesn't have the star in the cove stripe. It appears to have the hull of a Redline 41 but a very different deck and coach roof (if that is the

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread Rick Brass
CC Yachts used both CCY and ZCC as the Manufacturers Identity Code in the Hull Identification Number. My 25 is CCY, and was built in Niagara on the Lake, Ontario according to the customs documentation in the builders file. I have been told that the 25 mk1 was built in Rhode Island, but my boat

Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time

2013-07-11 Thread Jim Reinardy
No, I think he meant the 30, all of what he described is true of the mkII and still pretty unusual in a 30 footer. I do agree that it is a great boat as well, but probably have some bias. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux

2013-07-11 Thread Rick Brass
I have a siphon break in the raw water inlet to the head - but it has to be between the pump and the bowl. If you put a siphon break into the line before the pump, you will never be able to get water into the pump. Imzadi has three destinations for black water coming from the head (yes, it is

Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry

2013-07-11 Thread sam . c . salter
There are no marks for the 26. They were only built for 3 or 4 years.Quite a tender boat, but it's all relative and sails like a CC.They are usually in good condition as they weren't raced like the 25 or 27.PHRF is around 219. I don't think it's an offshore boat.sam:-)CC 26 LiquoriceGhost Lake