Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Mike, Your Dad's wagon probably had the 351 (not the 350... a Chevy engine). With any luck it was a 351 Windsor and not the 351 Cleavland. Maybe even had a four barrel carb? Cheers, Russ Sweet 351 (35', mk-1 :) At 08:57 AM 07/11/2013, you wrote: Content-class: urn:conten

Re: Stus-List floorboards

2013-11-07 Thread Bill Connon
wwadjo...@aol.com wrote: I am planning to remake floorboards this winter. I have old ones for pattern. Would be interested in any tips, on or off list, that anyone has for patterning, cutting, finishing. Plan to epoxy all sides, then varnish. Thinking of m making full size masonite patter

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Sam, ' looks like ya got yur "yours" backwards. Otherwise I agree, they're starting to sound like crotchety ol' men. :) Cheers, Russ At 06:03 PM 07/11/2013, you wrote: I've got a C&C because I was in love with them as a teenager. I'd lay in bed at night looking at C&C 's in my sa

Re: Stus-List floorboards

2013-11-07 Thread wwadjo...@aol.com
I am planning to remake floorboards this winter. I have old ones for pattern. Would be interested in any tips, on or off list, that anyone has for patterning, cutting, finishing. Plan to epoxy all sides, then varnish. Thinking of m making full size masonite patterns , attach with double side

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread sam . c . salter
I've got a C&C because I was in love with them as a teenager. I'd lay in bed at night looking at C&C 's in my sailing magazines instead of Rachel Welch or  Brit Ekland

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Joe Della Barba
I think that is very true. Coquina is 40 years old and we have owned her for 36 of those 40 years. Racing and cruising have diverged so much that the market for a 2014 C&C 35 MK I basically does not exist. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina From: C

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Well the logo really isn't bad Didn't mean to offend. I do recall sailing in New York back in 2000 on my 34+. My wife and I thought we were pretty hot shi...stuff as any boat under 45' was fair game for us. Along came a friend in his brand new 121 named Lady Hawk. They were doing a shoot

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Chuck S
Hey guys, Reality check? We are probably not the best council for the new C&C company. Having sailed for 40 years and owned my present boat for 11 years. If I ever hit the lottery, I still wouldn't buy a new boat. For the same money, I can get twice the boat fully equipped and fitted out w sail

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Ron Casciato
John: Thanks, I get it...but they don't have to sell thousands of boats..(Average price will be in the $250K+ range, in my opinion. They do have to build a slick fast competitive boat that any potential J105 or J109 buyer would change his mind for.. In my mind, this is a price t

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Ron Casciato
Steve: Thanks for catching thatactually I plead to being age-related mathematically challenged... Probably a result of trying to rationalize the actual amount of money I've spent in the last 12 years on my boat..only to find the insurance company decreasing my value fo

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Well, I agree with the sentiment if not the content. > Sabre...priced one of them lately. Actually... Yes (although they are no longer making sailboats). In fact I sold a 386 to return to C&C, albeit of the Tartan vintage. I don't regret the decision for a minute. I believe there are

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Steve Thomas
I agree with a lot of what you say, but you should check your arithmetic. Your boat is younger than you think. Steve. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ron Casciato Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Su

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!!

2013-11-07 Thread Ron Casciato
To the group... Just some thoughts to bring the conversation down to today's reality check.. I would advance that most of the listers in this group who own C&C boats actually own boats older than 1990...Maybe a few in the early 90's. virtually none of us own anything that c

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Graham Collins
Best of luck Will. cheers, Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-11-07 4:11 PM, Will Harris wrote: Hi Group, I thought maybe I'd chime in on this C&C history thread. Dunes and I both go way, way back with C&C. We grew up in and around Youngstown which is right across the river

Re: Stus-List i f-n hate jellyfish

2013-11-07 Thread Ed Dooley
If you ignore lamprey eels, zebra mussels, and on our Lake Champlain, Champ, the Loch Ness monster of our region, fresh water is pretty nice by comparison. No barnacles either. :-) Ed On 11/7/2013 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: > They must be the cockroaches of the sea; they¹ll be th

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Goodyear
Will, I'm interested in hearing quite how much of a "cruiser" the 41 will be. I spent last Sunday delivering a Swan 42 (that is theoretically a cruiser / racer) down Buzzards Bay to Portsmouth, RI in 20-25 knots and I'm glad it wasn't only me and my wife out there... How do you think the planned

Re: Stus-List Current (or past) C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Wally Bryant
Actually, I don't have a big problem with the logo. In fact, since I only have 'Blue/Red/Blue' stripes on my main, it now looks a little bit more like the new logo. It always bugged me that my main said "C" and not "C C" but I would have had to move the stripes down too far... Of course, in

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe
How shallow is shallow draft? Anything over 6 feet is a total non-starter for any kind of cruising from here (Chesapeake) through the Bahamas. The old centerboard 40s and 41s drew 4'7" board up IIRC. I wish you the best of luck. ANY C&C beats no more by a lot. That said, the 30 is going to be

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Rich Knowles
Nicely said, Will. As usual, doing anything new will be met with resistance and compromise is the dreaded thorn in the side of design. I wish you the best, even though I'm not sold on the logo:) Cheers Rich Knowles INDIGO 1981 LF38 Halifax, NS. On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Will Harris wrote:

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread John irvin
A great read. Thanks Stu. -Original Message- From: Stu Sent: 06/11/2013 16:54 To: C&C Email List Subject: Stus-List Current C&C History Here is a good read – it’s on the new C&C Website: http://c-cyachts.com/new/about-cc/history/ Stu

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Will Harris
Hi Group, I thought maybe I'd chime in on this C&C history thread. Dunes and I both go way, way back with C&C. We grew up in and around Youngstown which is right across the river from Niagara-on-the-Lake. Our clubs are almost like one club, divided by a border. We grew up racing and sailin

Re: Stus-List C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Joel Aronson
Tom The 30 looks like a Farr 30. Not for me either. Look at the J88. Joel On Thursday, November 7, 2013, TOM VINCENT wrote: > It looks like the new C&C is not the old C&C, it is now more of a racing > machine. I can hardly imagine taking my family out for a day or a weekend > on the new 30. I jo

Stus-List C&C History now too much boat

2013-11-07 Thread rick bushie
Hey Tom, Let me know when you're ready to trade! Rick Bushie Anchovy, 1971 30-1 Worton Creek, MD ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List i f-n hate jellyfish

2013-11-07 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Great, now I'm never gonna swim in the ocean: "There are several species of big box jellyfish that have caused many deaths — these include chironex fleckeri in Australia, known as the "most lethal jellyfish in the world whose sting can kill in three

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Joe I know all about shallow. Our bay is 13 ft deep in most areas and 30 feet in its deepest part. The channel we must navigate to get in and out of our marina is only 2 ft deep at moon low tide. I draw 5 feet (actually 4.9 ft) and must time my arrivals and departures around the tides. So OK

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Frederick G Street
And while there’s plenty of water in Lake Superior, I’m happy for the 4’11” draft of the LF38; and I’ve never felt the boat was tender. The Kellenbaugh stability diagram supports that. So it IS possible to design for shallow draft, particularly if you don’t mind a long fin keel, as opposed to

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe
My 35 draws 5 foot 4 inches or so. I am aground in my slip at low tide with a strong north wind. I can *barely* get through Kent Narrows at high tide and likewise Knapp's Narrows. Getting into Queenstown involves a few bumps to get in. Places I anchor in Rock Hall and St. Michaels leave us with

Re: Stus-List i f-n hate jellyfish

2013-11-07 Thread Bill Bina
You are not far off the mark, Fred. Overabundance of jellies is an indicator of trouble like the canary in a coal mine. Not good news for the rest of the ecosystem. Bill Bina On 11/7/2013 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: They must be the cockroaches of the sea; they'll be the only things l

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Gary 1980 was a great time. I was driving around in my Dad's Ford LTD wagon with a 350 CID V8 (correct me if that is not the exact model of engine), also drove a VW Rabbit with the 1.7 litre engine. Blue Horizon No.1 was to be delivered the next year (1981 C&C 36) . A couple of interesting

Re: Stus-List Current C&C History

2013-11-07 Thread Gary Nylander
Like Joe said, I don't expect to see many of the new 30's and 41's on the Miles River. 7.5 to 8 foot draft! My slip is 5 feet at low tide (once in a while, have to move the boat out to be ready for Wednesday night, as it may be stuck!). The saying around here (Chesapeake) is "if you haven't run

Re: Stus-List i f-n hate jellyfish

2013-11-07 Thread Frederick G Street
They must be the cockroaches of the sea; they’ll be the only things left swimming after the apocalypse… :^) Another advantage to sailing in fresh water. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Della Barba,

Stus-List i f-n hate jellyfish

2013-11-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe
http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/11/07/1559231/scientists-says-jellyfish-are-taking-over-the-oceans I was waiting for the little farging iceholes to go away so I could do one last bottom scrub and now the river is down to 58 degrees or so and they are STILL HERE. Die Die Die you little tent