Re: Stus-List backing down under sail

Hi Rick It is not uncommon to see pre-start backing down under sail at west coast "Grande Prix" races (that is occasioning read locally as grand pricks races, sometimes for good measure :). The primary reason around here is to ensure clearing seaweed from keel, etc. before the start. "Let

Re: Stus-List docking stern first

I've owned the boat for 12 years and just started backing in this year. It is so easy, sorry I didn't start sooner. I enter my marina fairway in forward slowly so the throttle is set. I rig fenders on both sides to protect neighboring boats. I setup about four boat lengths from my slip, turn s

Re: Stus-List Now docking

IMHO, the key to docking stern to is to have sufficiently sized 'cahunas' to get the boat moving in reverse relatively far from the slip. I almost always dock stern to and independent of wind, current, prop walk, blah, blah, blah...the key is to get going in reverse at least 10 boat lengths fr

Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

My boat didn't come with any sound insulation around the engine! Since my engine compartment is not completely closed, I wouldn't think that adding it now would be very helpful. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dain

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

Rick, I use about 3,000 rpm to get the boat stopped and moving in reverse. After that, I can use just a little bit of throttle to maintain my speed. The transmission usually goes into idle long before I enter the slip (in reverse). Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” C&C 35 Mk

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

I'm glad I did it on mine. Then again new engine mounts and adjusting the lifters could have helped too. Noise still transmits aft under a hatch for the shaft seal. I've considered putting some insulation on it too. Josh On Aug 28, 2014 5:22 PM, "David via CnC-List" wrote: > Well I heard from

Re: Stus-List C&C Ball Cap

Mine was getting pretty shabby looking.I switched to a Tilley, I like it Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via CnC-List Sent: August 28, 2014 7:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List C&C Ball Cap

I was just thinking the other day that mine is nearing retirement condition and could use replacement! Bill Bina On 8/28/2014 6:36 PM, RPH via CnC-List wrote: Everytime I visit the C&C Photo Album website, I visit the online ch

Stus-List C&C Ball Cap

Everytime I visit the C&C Photo Album website, I visit the online chandlery and gaze longingly at the coveted C&C Ball Cap that is "temporarily" out of stock. Oh, how lucky are those of you who posses such a fine headpiece!  Will it ever be restocked? Please give me hope. ___

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

Dave - I'll chime in.I did that job about 3 years ago and am glad I did.Note that it's no silver bullet. Martin's comment that "no one asks if the diesel is running" is still accurate, but it's a lot better. As I get older the engine doesn't sound as bad as it used to, so I have that goin

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

I have no sound proofing around my engine.  I do have the atomic 4 though and it is referred to as the quiet engine.   In my opinion, and I have no experience with diesel, it's that I want to hear the engine when it is running even at idle, especially at idle... From my Android phone

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

Really it's a personal preference issue.if the engine noise bothers you or someone important to you then try some sound insulation.if you need sound insulation then I would suggest that maybe you are steaming too much.no such problem under sail.anyway I hope you get my point about "personal prefere

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

Well I heard from one about the not-so-great results from installing engine sound insulation...anybody else want to chime in with an opinion about whether it is worth it? David F. Risch 1981-402 (401) 419-4650 (cell) > To: pauljba...@shaw.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:

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Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking

You got it...i know that one because I had a 27 MKIII in the same sort of dock arrangement Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: August 28, 2014

Stus-List Now docking

Don't you just hate it when you've got that "perfect" stern in docking maneuver going and one of your crew thinks you're going to scrape a piling and "fends off" by stopping the boat. That sucks! I usually try to remember to tell crew not to fend off unless I ask and definitely don't stop me. A

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

Ditto. (Of course it's probably just luck, the current or wind, magic or my imagination because conventional wisdom seems to say that Martecs have no reverse.) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Not sure I understand a "3 point mooring". In Southport CT we have fore and aft moorings. The uninitiated (and those who refuse to take advice / help from our staff), amuse bystanders as they try to pick up the pennants. (The trick is to use an extension line that clips on to one pennant to al

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking

same configuration here. The dock is actually shorter than the boat. And I use very similar technique. Most of the times it works. Marek -Original Message- From: Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sou

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

Jean-Francois, you said: “The trick for my boat is to give it a moderate goose in reverse and immediately put it in neutral.” Until I learned this trick (or is it technique?) I could not get out of my slip. It is a narrow slip and very narrow fairway and getting out I need to turn backwards to

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

That is pretty much my approach. The prop walk disappears when in neutral and with ANY backward way on the rudder is very effective. That is very different from the much heavier twin engine power boat I am used to. Rudder is useless in reverse unless you have some serious way on. You "steer" the bo

Re: Stus-List ; Now docking

In docking (and most other sailing endeavors too) we have discovered an immutable law of physicality we call the "people watching rule"; which is; "the amount of trouble or difficulty encountered is directly proportionate to the number of people watching"! Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River Mil

Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

I have never pulled into my slip going forward, my shore power line is not long enough to reach.. The very 1st time ever I docked a keel boat (or any inboard boat for that mater ) I backed it into its slip (U shaped slip) . That was the day of my sea trial 24 hrs before I signed a big check... I

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

I’ll use my radio and ask for a tow From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:10 PM To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? (save

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking

I keep a heavy line tied between the piling on the fareway and the piling on the dock, one on both port and stbd sides. In lew of a center piling you can use a couple of different types of knot to tie a spring line to the side lines. The bow man (or you) can grab the spring you left dangling on t

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Thanks all. I don't have the luxury of a spring though, I'm on a three point mooring. I suppose in my case I'll just use the stern line. Thanks for the tips :) And the EYC suggestion, maybe I'll give that a try, we're not far. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Josh Mu

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking

My best docking EVER is at super low tide. I am dragging through a few inches of mud, so short of half-throttle the boat does not move. Despite a nasty crosswind I track ruler-straight into the slip, stop dead center, and calmly walk around hooking up lines while the boat holds perfect position

Re: Stus-List Ever broke the key in the ignition switch?

Since Fred asked about the Enterprise’s warp drive, you may be pleased to know that we do have a warp core on board, complete with dilithium crystals. See it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89vY1p0tT2E All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship E

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking

Which is all well and good if your dock has a piling or some other way of getting a midships springline onto it. My dock is a low, short finger, when the boat is in the slip the stern is just about to the end of the finger so no way to drop a springline over a dock cleat as I come in singlehand

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

It doesn't hurt to have the engine running in neutral too...just in case. Josh On Aug 28, 2014 2:28 PM, "dwight via CnC-List" wrote: > And if you are going to be brave enough to practice this in a > responsible fashion, then try practicing single handed; it's a little more > challenging

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

And if you are going to be brave enough to practice this in a responsible fashion, then try practicing single handed; it's a little more challenging that way and also a little more impressive for the onlookers. Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ Fr

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

I call that the J.C.F. line… Tim \ Toronto From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:57 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Key to difficult docking situations is a midships spring line. If you drop a short spring on a piling you can run against it and snug up to the dock under power either way and under sail going downwind. Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided

Re: Stus-List Ever broke the key in the ignition switch?

Fred, Those are the impulse engine controls. The sail cover and furling line are the warp drive controls. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise'

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Back when I was a teenager, my brother and I almost always sailed our Columbia Sabre (5.5m hull made into a narrow racer/cruiser) in and out of the slip. Our auxiliary power was a temperamental 5hp British Seagull (aren't they all) that was a pain to carry up the companionway and mount on the tr

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Hi Steve … Come to EYC and practice on the Visitor pump-out dock ;) Tim 33MKII Toronto From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

I've always wanted to practice sailing to a dock, but I don't have a slip. I've sailed on and off of a single point mooring but not my three point mooring. The three point dictates which direction you're approaching from regardless where the wind is. Same as a slip but with a slip you can sidle up

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

Docking. What a novelty ;) Try a 3 point mooring in a 25 knot cross wind on the starboard beam with 4 mooring lines dangling in the water and a 2 blade fixed ;) That thing is like a rototiller in the water (it *just* *wants* to GO. OVER. THERE.). In a situation like that I come in close to the wind

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

(save that one time when my outboard quit when turning into the fairway) Which is exactly why I advocate practicing sailing in! We lose these skills over time, so practice is necessary and far from irresponsible. Nothing says we have to come charging in at hull speed. Try approaching with just th

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

We did have some fun sailing into our slip in Ego Alley (downtown Annapolis). My brother was visiting and wanted to go for a sail despite the engine being taken apart for repairs. While we were out the wind shifted so that returning would be a dead run down the fairway. If we missed the slip you

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Just to make sure, I am far from advocating using sails to enter marinas. I think that in most cases this would be just irresponsible. And I use the engine every time coming in (save that one time when my outboard quit when turning into the fairway) or going out and when anchoring etc. And I bet

Re: Stus-List Was now docking ...now getting busy

Well you end up with this sooner or later: http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:18 PM To: Robert Gallagher; cnc-list@c

Re: Stus-List Ever broke the key in the ignition switch?

Where are the “Impulse Engine” and “Warp Drive” controls? Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: > Here’s a pic of my keyless ignition panel: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/EN

Re: Stus-List Was now docking ...now getting busy

A need to set up another RESP ? Tim Toronto From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gallagher via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Was now docking

Stus-List Was now docking ...now getting busy

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Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

Because my boat backs to port I have found that I am better off lining up to starboard of the centerline of the slip. When I back down, the stern moves to port, centering the boat in the slip. I shift to neutral and steer as needed. I throw the aft spring over the designated winch so I don't bac

Re: Stus-List Ever broke the key in the ignition switch?

Here’s a pic of my keyless ignition panel: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/keyless.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Ca

Re: Stus-List Ever broke the key in the ignition switch?

Finally got a picture of my shortened key Bill Coleman C&C 39 KeyRing.jpg I like the ring / shortened key idea. The pull switch is also a good idea, I did try the superglue trick and it did not work for me. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Georgia. Sent from I

Re: Stus-List Was Engine Sound Insulation - Now docking

The trick to backing with a Martec folding prop is the throttle. My Martec will stop my 15000 pound 38 from 2 or 3 knots in about a boat length. Shift into reverse and boost the throttle to about half (1200 to 1500 rpm in my case). The revs hold the blades open and she will stop as well as she d

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

I back my 38 into her slip, so I've only sailed her into her slip one time - and that was bow first. Actually that was pretty easy since her slip was the last one on the pier. I've never tried backing a sailboat under sail. I used to be totally awed when the big AC boats would come head to wind

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Sailing into my slip is not something I am prepared to try. I'm not that good but even if I were my marina is very tight. No need to take that kind of risk. Hell, It took me a few attempts at backing in under power to figure out that my 2-blade folding Martec prop needs half an hour head start just

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

I can't remember all the times I've had to sail a boat to the dock at the end of a delivery. It's good practice to sail your own boat in occasionally--just for fun--in case one day you have to get in without an engine. I suspect most of the people on this list know their boats well enough that they

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

My marina has a narrow entrance channel and I need to do two 90 degree turn to get into my slip. I can sail in, or I can sail out, but I can't recall ever being able to do both in the same day. My worst day with no engine was coming home from Baltimore in November. It was cold, it was rough, the

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Nobody is faulting the use of an engine. It is just funny seeing people get upset about sailboats sailing instead of using their "auxiliary" propulsion. Arguably more people and property are damaged by improper operation of engine propelled watercraft. On Aug 28, 2014 9:57 AM, "dwight via CnC-Lis

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Guess I am missing something here.maybe I don't understand what is meant by "marina". I know it is possible to dock a 35 footer like Alianna at a "marina" using sails only and I have done it a time or two but under unfavorable wind conditions due to direction or strength in such close quarters I p

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

Nice! On Aug 28, 2014 12:46 AM, "Russ & Melody via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > In my olden days as a member of the Yacht Club's Executive Committee, > business was brought forth to propose that sailboats must use engines in > the marina (or something to that effect). I pointed o