am going to put up for sale located vancouver island ...currently
reasonable to ship as can use commercial shipper...not over ht or
width..and if delivered east pic nearest USA border pointmuch new
,engine,standing rigging,furlingi stove,fireplace, new 150 dacron
headsail,all sails great
have used for over 00years...makes all the difference in securing to
bottom...use 36ft 1 half inch chain then 200 ft plus 5eights 3strand
rode...open the kellet ,,put it on rope fasten sliding retreval
line..then fasten weightsusually use 15 lbd lead ball sometimes two
depending on forca
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owned c&c 25 mk1 one of the first back in jan 1973 purchased from c&c
sales in bronte oakville show room...raced it very succesfully on lake
ontario that summer then in late sept left for south ...thru oswego canal
erie canal hudson river to atlantic sailed coast to florida ...ft
lauderdal
pretty well use my dinghy similar to amenttow when in inland
watersdavits when offshore or rough seasoriginal dinghy was boston
whaler 9ft sailing ,rowing,motor...changed this few years ago to
inflatable 9ft inflatable floor model ...miss solid whaler to row but
less weight in stern
added to stern was not difficult as shape of stern small but relatively
straight,most difficult was putting backing blocks between stern glass
&cockpit wallafter much trying to get backing blocks located , then
mounted atkins & hoyle adjustable 3 piece davits on teak wood blocks
betwee
by chance did you buy current used up zincs from different place than
previously? have found different zinc makers zincs... deteriorate at
different ratesfaster corroding are doing job best as far as
protection.zincs made in china seem to give least protection and in
some cases show litt
propane heat must be installed correctly and serviced and checked on a
systematic basesall this is well and good.propane detectors are a
must...oxygen monitors also now required by some insurance
companiespropane tank on aft taff rail now being also turned down for
insurance in case o
have used dickenson hard fuel cabin heaters for last 25 plus years.burn
well with brickets , wood scrapes , kennel coal, scrape garbage
wrappings ,pickup wood kindling while hikeing as well as beach wood
scrapes ...fireplace burns 4 to 5 hrs then more fuel needs to be
added.with a t
you have got it right..andrews transport is one of best in NAused
them more than half dozen timesno problemstrailers specially
designed to give vessel a safe smooth ride...shipped macinac city to
oakville... midland to oakvilleannapolis to north carolina
virginia
have used watski self tailers since 1974 & still using today having
just replaced two recently..use on boats 923 lewmars all 4 of them
barient 18sall 6 of them...to date have worked great easy
wear on sheets no scuffing of outside covers of lines...after using for
41yea
my 3000 has operated perfectly since the 1980s ...still greatbelts
will wear quickly if not perfectly lined up for 12 plus tons off boat
is great ...only downwind in rolling seas does it need manual help
maintaining coarse sail balance is key to successmine built in
england
very very poor is best comment , yachts they new... but ignorant when it
came to gasoline engines ..used mirex fuel tanks ..known to have capacity
sender to cause a hole to wear thru bottom of tank &serious gas fuel
leaks sometimes onto water jacketed exhausts one new at the time redline
41
jim watts probably good to check with.believe he had shark before he
moved up to current c&cif early built shark he will know what to look
for in your yachthinterholler sharks in early days used many different
metals for chainplateseven aluminum...let us know how it goes..
many older c&c s built early 1970s especially custom builts have aluminium
chain plates ..the advise you have from yard is not to helpfultheir
answer is to replace with stainless? they are stainless steel workers?
most aluminum used in key areas is aircraft specification...one of original
fo
dont change what works well.as far as face book, forget it , no way,
absolutely never never,will be gone ...hate to see another good thing
lost to so called progress...jimmy ...TIDEWATER ..,1968 redline 41...south
vancouver island for winter..
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located in victoria b cis a federal agency..in canada...the registar is
most helpful in victoria .have been helped by her & replys etc. have
been prompt &accurate.hard to believe how well this agency operates
comp
still using old autopoliot 3000 works fine...for what i need...anyone
with spare parts for this model i would be interested talking to in regard
to purchasing..works very well on my 1968 redline 41 ..as long as boat sail
are trimmed & balanced correctly.
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some c&c designs such as viking 34s have needed reinforcement when used
in rough waters backstay & headstay...if going to europe would
consider...not that difficult of a job..
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:48 PM, jimmy kelly
wrote:
> c&c 39 could probably use some reinforce
Cal 40 & newport 41S designs PROBABLY TWO BEST SURFERS in 40ft
yachts... designed just about change from CCA rule to IOR one
most newport 41s can surf but newport 41S fastest &best downwind
performera very close hull design to redline 41s ...a CCA rule great
sailornot poundi
c&c 39 could probably use some reinforcement if going to spend any amount
of time off shore ...in bow area some 39s laid up rather thin to keep
weight out of endsone former owner who i sailed carib with found made a
difference when tightening up head stay...he then did reinforcement on
s
atomic 4 engine fogging ..should have mentioned run engine til
warm then add mmm oil to engine cylinders
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, jimmy kelly
wrote:
> marvel magic mystery oil will coat all internals plus keep cylinders from
> sticking...also coat exhaust interally...
marvel magic mystery oil will coat all internals plus keep cylinders from
sticking...also coat exhaust interally...is old old product but still used
by big rig drivers to add to diesel fuel to help with lubrication...many a4
owners have found quiets engine down substantiallyhave used on a4s f
although not a c&c speaking of large yachts, a 70 plus ft wood yacht
designed by Guy Gurney, WINDWARD PASSAGE could surf for extended periods
given the right conditions.she SURFED past both RUNNINGTIDE a s&s 63,,&
C&C 66 PHANTOM DURING a race inSORC in florida...stern configuration
&right wave
one of most interesting c&c s ,was c&c Inferno A CUSTOM 54FT built late
60s for chicago sailor ,white hull radical fin ,fairly full stern ..great
planer with 25kts wind and large following seas could get up &go..was
passed by her while crewing on twelve meter heritageINFERNO was moved
t
most amazing was 24ft shark design..by g hinterholler a cnc mfg founding
company. his early h30 also great surfer.shark reported back in 1970s
passing c&c 53 bonaventure in windy long distance race...shark was built
for number years by cnc.
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rob is rightearlier cca influence on cnc design did produce hulls that
under right conditions would surf...notably crusader
redline35,redline41,cnc43 early models...redline requires 4to8
ftwaves20 plus knots of wind aftwent from niagara to oswego on
lake ontario ..surfed all the way
have used Delta marine sidney..excellent service...had major rudder work
plus new steering cable...rudder shaft bearings top & bottom redone.
new system to lubricate rudder shaft..bottom sanded &repainted csc
painthull buffed...a few other small itemsall done on time ...no
surprises bil
is now delta marine sidney bc
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it sure is a c&c ...one done for prominent yachtman of the timesailed
on her 1970..was greatlater raced against her.on redline 41two
great performance yachts...still competative in phrf racing..price appears
very reasonable
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had my 4 ..custom 923 lewmars & 4 barients rechromed worked well..had
custom auto shop do work.
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this price in the 200s is right in line with total redone cnc43i doubt
you can get more yacht for the price.can get larger cncs for less but
condition sets price not age...this one really looks goodsomeone will
have a fine yacht
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price of cnc 39 center cockpit...right on the mark...2 have sold west coast
last two years for 42000 and 46000...this one has higher engine hours...but
seems similar...anyone buying cncs by date of manufacture as to
age..very foolish...condition is everything...and where built in some
cases...a
has any one tried shared ownership of sailboat? have owned & operated my
cnc 41 for 40 years..am finding not using enough..but do not wish to sell
her...younger co owners as well as us in 70s...could work something out..to
mutual benefitboat in good shape needs very little other than
marina
my experience many switches dont activate until to late with
gasoline...only safe items human nose &high quality gasoline fume
detector...not detector that sniffs propane ,smoke,co2 but gas only..
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electric bilge pump not best way to get rid of gasoline spill but 5 miles
from shore full crew &hot muffler with fuel dripping on it ...only drown
whole area possible..whale 25 portable pump pumping from lake was great
help..enough water in boat to above floor boards auto pumps kept us from
event
one nearby boat gas fuel explosionyou realize the real dangerearly
in my sailing ownerships...had experience leaking gas fuel dripping on
water jacked muffler ..noticed when engine shutdown to begin distance
race,,fuel smell,,it didnt take long for a crew of 11 to get pails..riggers
bucket
if you have the moneyget a good marine inspection..so you know your
total costs ..dont worry about sailing itfurling head sail makes this
possible...basic autopilot...some good used ap availablereliable
engine...this particular model a single handlers dream if fitted out..start
first
certainly looks original...bruckmann built maybe hull layed up by
belleville marine...lister not to well informed ...is fin keel ,spade
rudder,is not a hull with core ..as first was redjacket ..this hull
probably taken from modified crusader hull mold sometime in 1965
or66...this is a great saili
you tend to get what you pay for.for durability & resale value plus
after sales service two brand s stand out over time...furlex from
sweden..and harken from usa.harken after service is A
oneresale as addition to boat ads value...i would go harken with a
reputable sailmakers sail
have 1968 redline 41 by bruckmann mfgremoved dorades..,back in early
80swere fastened from below as well as from inside boxes...also
glassedwithin boxwere not designed to be removed..had to have
yard ..cut them off...instead of new dorades went with aluminium 14 by 8
inch hatc
diform wire appears to be way to go...are several other similar mfgs just
as good but little more expensive...every one who has used no
problemswindage wise is claimed to be better than rod of same
strength...also nice to work with...no redo every ten years...
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marvel magic mystery oil works great on cylinders atomic 4 ,used it on a4
s for years,... calms engine down til it almost purrsas for diesels you
usually add it to fuel , most widely used by large tractor trailer
haulers who add it to fuel large marine diesel mechanics use it when
tun
this forum helps to enhance cnc designsas such shouldnt we all endeavor
to get more participantsif everyone recruited one more active user
could ad lot of valuealso a suggestion every user should sign off.
with..yacht model, yacht year mfg,could add name or harbour if wished
...any neg
rod weight vs wire weight is not significantwindage not any real
difference ..real problem with rod ,needs ends reworked about every 10
years...back in late 70s ...cnc introduced rod on inshore design models,
as a marketing strategy...after using it on custom larger offshore
models..it did
have found a number of buyers who will not purchase rod boats or will
deduct cost of replacement to wire from purchase pricethis is prevelent
on great lakes &also on west coastas to racing, wire can be just good
as rod with right hydralics or mechanical devices...also we found with
many
this must be one of those magazines at check out counters...like old
national enquirer only more full of crap...these sailors trying to fulfill
a dream...didnt work this time but hope they get it together and try
again...any magazine that would print this misinformed nonsence is junk..as
for the au
bunch of negative comments about a boat they know very little
about...supposedly informed posters nothing but negativessome who have
never seen this modeleven have opinions..can tell very little from
pictures...get feeling maybe really dont want to sell her...have come
across this before t
four same money maybe the 34 for inshore coastal use. but for a real
cruising boat offshore the crusader wins hands down...hard to tell real
condition of 40 other than not gleaming at the dock...sails not mentioned
if was considering real offshore trip to say argentina or europe the
crusader
probably full of racoons?i dont get it...
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most c&c cored hulls are no problem unless owners or yards dont instal thru
hulls correctly or make impact repairs taking out core & fitting solid
glass replacement..no water ingress to core...i would not be concern with
cored hull otherwise
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this is NOT balsa cored hullonly small deck areas have core...much of
deck reinforcer with solid fir.the shrouds are aircraft aluminum &should
last longer than rest of boat...as long as fastings inside bulkhead which
are wood still intact...the hull built by belleville marine ,,one of
founding
depends on if a newport 41 or redline 41 or crusader model newports
most of them had balsa core in hull ..might be delamanation below
waterline, fixable but lot of work..latter two models no balsa core in
hullif hull still true in shape ..not difficult to redo...great sailing
hulls
gfi needs to be on only first outlet on alternating current
line...probably have more than one line ...an extra gfi in the line is
good way to keep spare,,,with gfi more you pay perhaps more you get
..however..all must meet american standards which require d to be employed
in damp areas...not t
try hinterholler shark vs cnc custom 53 bonadventure..shark trounced us
in real heavy &high winds ..went on to win ,classic race, shark just got up
on plain &left us ..also shark in heavy weather left 3 cnc redlines 41s in
another fall race...kirbys also passed us on a few races with heavy
wind
name reflects somewhat on owner...3 worst i have seen all on lake ontario
north shore...missed three periods,a gynecologist...,after birth..,another
gyne...yuck fou a t bird in toronto area...tells you about someones poor
taste...
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one consideration could be marketing length ex. cnc30 ..along with
overall length...many cnc models like 27s varied from 26.8ft to27 .9ft i
believe in case of cnc 38s were less than 38ft..redline 41was 41ft .7 on
deck only fit in 43 ft slip because of reverse transom &that does not
include b
moor electronics & its predessor in buffalo ny make great
equipment...installed late 70s their wind &speed equipment...on my then
boat ..talked to current owner. a while ago & he indicates still all
operating great...also afterservice top notchas to interface ...why
..when unit down all c
it appears much of the current manufactured units have a lifespan some
times only a few yearswe are still using 1970s brooks & gatehouse
depth sounders ..work excellently...only in last year needed reader head
serviced...done by b&g dealer 65 dollars...have two units both operating
well...p
have never heard it said better as skipper of rainy days.69 or 70 years
old is but a numbereach of us ages differentlycomments about
preparations,the intercoastal waterway, bahamas, really are very
much to the pointwe left great jobs in mid 70s first cruise down
waterway
go as young as able to afford a reasonable boat...time flys...first cruiser
offshore was cnc 25 modified in 74 ...then cnc redline 41 ...have never
regreted a moment ...now live ashore in condo but still sail boat
regularily...have watched others prepare,,,others dream,,,others plan,,,but
never
the rob ball designed 41 is great boat looks...interior but not a great
offshore cruiser...not much fun in bigger offshore chop...,will take it but
crew will be very uncomfortable.if i were beginning long offshore
cruising destinations ..would look for cnc designed newport 41s
...whitby 4
sailed on ont38 on launch day back in 80s...nice boat well built...owners
sailed n atlantic down to mediterrean...and then to caribean ..lost
track after that but sailmaking company sent them new main to argentina a
few years later...they reported boat holding up well with no major
problems...
ken heatons info on atomic 4 is great reading thanks for info..went thru 4
of these great engines ..on my redline 41 ..6 nm later..now using
universal25xl diesel which has more torque...the atomic 4 s were real
workhorses..compact ,light weight...and very easy to work on...would
recommend th
had this problem of otters and their favourite poop spots when docked in
victoria harbour.a number of us on dock go together & first pressure
washed dock & areas under neath dock as best as couldthen on dry days
soaked top of dock with javex let dry then next few days repeated 4 times
then
lets get back to items of interest like C&C yachts & not a lot of chat
about vaguely related items like homemade autopilotsotherwise will be
even fewer participatesa forum is only as good as the number of people
who are involvednot 4or five people talking about saskatoon drinking 30
yea
have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit
by lightning a number years a go ...only electrics not totally fried was
spare b&g rdf...was not trailing ground from shrouds as was & is
still a habit thanks.
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it has been mentioned use of portable transistor radio to find bermuda from
mainland coast USAback in late 70s ..80s many skippers going to
windward islands went by way of bermuda...turned right near bermuda
..sailed directly south about 900 nm then sse to islands...we had b&g rdf
and sailed th
engine size on cnc 40 can be as low as 30 hp on new universal diesels with
their higher torque..as to prop revs 3200 would sound about right..prop
needs to be repitched..if going with folder a used 2 blade martec
folder is a very reasonable option ...contact martec as to pitch...they
can do
as martin de young says when offshore, older dated gear still handy
..still have B&G rdf...with hand bering compass,still usable to home in
on high wattage radio stations when required...have two units if anyone
wants one for museum collection.the heath kit rdf..really takes you
back be
have used this model on last two boats over last 30 plus years...never had
smoke problem or coal dust, &coal fuel lasts little over 5 hours...is dry
heat...whole secret to these heaters is head stack,..firebox liners which
appear to allow hotter burning fuels, chimney &most important dampers &
the
fume detectors are amust and should be installed in relation what fumes
are seeking protection from propane near lower levels ...carbon monoxide
higher as these fumes rise while propane dropswith carbon detectors
one for each living area...have unfortunately seen loss of a family of 4
hu
sailing yesterday in sidney bay wind never reached over 16kts &temp dropped
about 330 in afternoon..we kept on move running with the wind..little
cooler upwind, but all in all great day for sidney bc...sailing in
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agree with martin deyoung c&c 43 calipso put fender out on both sides...we
use 4 large fenders on each side plus light center cleat brest line...our
dock at times heavy eratic cross currents plus often or not, beam
winds...work well over last 20yrs ..NEVER ever give bow line to anyone...
will pul
most easterners that really consider resettlement to island dont do
it..between lack of equal employment &renumeration as per ontario.
..majority of successful resettlement are retirement type sailors or
skiers..the few others that arrive go to interior...so i suggest dont have
a lot of easter
dont count on ant eradication in cold weather...a few seem to find warm
hibernation places had that problem in ontario many years ago..answer put
out some ant traps as well as some moth balls to keep them out of cushions
and get them to be on move seeking food & your ant traps this seems to have
wo
today january 3rd 2014unbelieveable...sidney bc canada on south
vancouver island...sunny no clouds ,wind nw 11 kts,temperature, 50 plus
degrees,half dozen sailboats sailing sidney bay,earlier were even more,we
have been at boat for 3 to 4 hrs warm,pleasant early september like
day...dock nei
stay with your local lofts...then you get after service like proper
fitting,...advice re adjustments...minor repairs at reasonable
charge..winter storage if needed...test sails..etc...if buying new sail
get direct written quote by the sailmaker..himself...the price for normal
cut dacron sail wil
dont know who insured with but new ffor old no depreciation insurance
available...&good value...who are you insured with? what sail loft
reported probably correct as to repairbut can sail be cut down &still
be used with good shape?who did you get opininion from...sounds like
answer of a s
it looks like a bruckmann interior for surehinterholler niagara
production plant..produced some hulls similar rudder configerations whicn
were sold as landfall 39 &42sa few were finished at bruckmanns have
you checked rudder grease fittings..as to leaks you may find hard to
distingui
just back from out on boat ..little cool, light breeze...great place to
spend winter season...temperature high 40s some sun seasons greetings
to all...look fwd to sailing 2014winter races start in a couple of
weeks...C&C designed redline41 southern vancouver island bc
canada
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is windquest her original name &was she custom built at bruckmanns in
oakville ontario...?...is she standard deck configeration..can check this
by looking up on sailboat data .com.afew 39s were built with different
decks ,rudders..even a couple with outboard rudderslet us know.as
may h
was docked next to them in victoria bc a few years agonever saw them
actually pluged in to shore power..they are truly self sufficient
appeared most happy without all electrical junk on boats today..do
we really need refrigeration pressure hot water radar ...hand held gps is
nice
not leaking ...then is only a question of faring with marine filler then
sealing with good underwater sealer...my c&c 39 developed this after
running aground on intercoastal waterway.once fixed lasted for 10
yearsnot a lot of problems to happen on this year &model of
c&c39...great boa
if your former ukhalsey loft gave you good service...i would not be
concerned about the new owners...i have dealt with charlie ulmer in nyc in
past..uk in toronto ont ,uk in sidney bc,uk halsey sidney bc & plusnew
owners in past year in sidney loft...service still excellent...new owners
in sidney
just a question of interest...is you 34r with a outboard rudder mounted on
transom?believe 5 were built
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the c&c custom plant used aircraft aluminium for shrouds ,related
bolts,mast steps,rudder mainframes,rudder posts,stem fittings,aft spinnaker
attachment points,goosenecks,spinnaker pole ends,plus many other
items...have stood the test of timefrom early 60s as bruckmann mfg. to
c&ccustom back t
you can hope they will miss you as far as taxes go.not a chance.pay
up quickly...before they seize the boatthen you have real problems
trying to get it back..before goes to highest bidder plus tax...this is
revenue canada ..not accountable to any authoritynot my friends but
have se
dwight is right on the mark re wire halyards sounds like his boat was set
up correctly probably by c&c custom rigger in oakville plant...many c&c 35
mk1s out on west coast still using wire reel main halyard
winches...especially the ones winning many races...i do not recommend them
but certainly do
if you have fish hooks in halyards it usually a sign to replace halyard or
you screwed it up using itanyhow have used wire to rope halyards for
over 40 years on custom c&c 42...race cruise ..sail every week year
round...long time in north carolina virginia carribean...now west coast
bc...only r
the newer universal diesels 25 , & 30 are self bleeding...very nice
feature especially if you run fuel tank emptyonly problem with these
engines is salt water pumps fail fairly quickly original sherwood
pumps corrode...when replace go with oberdorfer about 300 dollars they
stand up...
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early c&c designs very seldom need rebored or built up unless bent or
damaged in a accidentold steering cable& turning block bearings worn
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rudder bearings on older c&c designs 1970s really quite simple ¬
complicated.if my memory from the shop in oakville they were really simple
with not much to breaksimply block the rudder to prevent it falling
out..unhook steering cables ..pullout cross pins..or any other
stops...if any.
probably dont need new rudder but skin taken off &redoneactually not a
lot of money compared to new rudder...the metal inside rudder could be
stainless ..aircraft aluminium...or plain steel..most likely
stainlessunless built as custom race modelwhen skinning rudder goto
top of shaft .
early c&c 38smk1 should be considered...but for single handed or short
crew c&c design newport 41 mk1 even better ...better load carrier ..more
stable sailing plateform& actually easier to sail...sail area is
manage able with good furling systemas well as a lot of time dont
even n
seldom do you hear about needing to replace a piece of stuffing
boxthe only one around here took the old broken piece toured yacht
yards especially yards where boats broken up after fires etc.will find
piece you need.could be off sail or power boathave not changed much
in 50 y
have need to redo painted deck on my 1970s c&c 41 repainted about 10 years
ago with sikkens paint ..european company no longer in NA.paint peeling
but sikens green undercoat still intact ..areas around hatchs etc
gloss white international paintrest of area non skid by sikkens..
it is a very small boat ..short waterlinenot a 35 or 40 ft yacht...plan
carefullyfrom silva bay not a long trip ...with chart not difficult to
bypass rocks..just outside silva bay..bring more hot drinks etc than
normal its cold out there
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