Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-17 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Both depower the main Does the adjustable baby stay (mast bend) make the Cunningham (luff tension) redundant? I have an adjustable baby stay, is adding a Cunningham a waste of time? Thanks , Dave 33-2 Sent from my iPhone ___ This list is supporte

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
They both help to flatten the main in heavy wind but they do it differently. Kinda like saying, "Since I have a belt I don't need suspenders." Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, May 17, 2017, 9:43 PM Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > Both depower the main Does the ad

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-17 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
5 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress" Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 21:43 To: C&c Stus List Cc: Dave S Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Both depower

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Doesn't the cunngham assist the halyard in moving draft forward? -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:43 PM To: C&c Stus List Cc: Dave S Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningh

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
27;t the cunngham assist the halyard in moving draft forward? > > -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S > via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:43 PM > To: C&c Stus List > Cc: Dave S > Subjec

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
And bending mast would also open leech From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Cunningham does flatten the sail

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
There is a difference between the amount of max draft and the location of max draft. Mast bend affects the amount of maximum draft. Luff tension or cunningham affects the location of maximum draft. For a headsail, headstay sag affects the amount of maximum draft. Halyard tension affects the loc

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Alberta    Original Message   From: Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:43 PM To: C&c Stus List Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dave S Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Both depower the main Does the adjustable baby stay (mast bend) make the Cunningham (l

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
" wrote: And bending mast would also open leech *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:52 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Josh Muckley *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Cunningha

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ultimately, to answer your question, IMO the Cunningham is a valuable addition. For me adjusting halyard tension is more difficult than adjusting Cunningham. My Cunningham is a 5 to 1 fiddle block arrangement which pulls down on a pennant that passes through the luff cringle (2 to 1) resulting in

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
7 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Cunningham does flatten the sail but simply due to luff tension. If a baby stay is able to pull the belly of the mast forward then the luff is also pulled forw

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Ultimately, to answer your question, IMO the Cunningham is a valuable addition. For me adjusting halyard tension is more difficult than adjusting Cunningham.  My Cunningham is a 5 to 1 fiddle block arrangement which pulls down on a pennant th

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
hitm...@sbcglobal.net > > > -- > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? > > Ultimately, to answer your q

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Bruce, Garhauer makes very nice adjustable car system. Look up “Garhauer adjustable genoa car system”. A few pictures here (not my boat ((:-(): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hq9xfaayl2n3b9v/AAAbFxc4HSJ8GMhukyZq1AR4a?dl=0 . Marek I am thinking of adding cars to my jib track that I can adjust from

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
+ 1 on Garhauer, I like mine. Gary 30-1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Bruce, Garhauer

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
riday, May 19, 2017 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Bruce, Garhauer makes very nice adjustable car system. Look up “Garhauer adjustable genoa car system

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
"Milwaukee, WI Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: Fri, May 19, 2017 5:21 am To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Hoyt, Mike&q

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> Milwaukee, WI > > ---- Original Message > Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? > From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" > Date: Fri, May 19, 2017 5:21 am > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" > > Josh >

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
gt; trimming main sail. A tight sheet and vang does close the leech but wind it > is usually bending mast that is a tool used to open leech vs in light wind > > Mike > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sen

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
f setup, that would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks as always for your help, Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net -- *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List *To:* C&C List *Cc:* Josh Muckley *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:30 PM *Su

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-19 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Great discussion - helped me resolve a few entangled rigging mods. Thanks! Dave From: Josh Muckley To: "C&C List" Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 17:58:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Check out these pictures. https://drive.google.com

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-20 Thread bwhitmore--- via CnC-List
would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks as always for your help, Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunnin

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-24 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Josh- I have a similar rig, but the reefing hook is attached directly to the luff cringle. I considered adding another 2:1 but I want to clarify how your pennant is rigged. It looks like it is attached to the tack pin, then up to the cringle and then down to a spliced loop for the reefing h

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

2017-05-24 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
David your statement of my whole setup is correct. It is a spliced eye with no thimble. The hook fits tight in the eye splice to avoid inadvertent disengagement when the cunningham is softened or while the sail is not at full height (reefed or down completely). When I reef I typically don't use