Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-07 Thread Marek Dziedzic
For that specific reason we installed a short ladder on each and every finger in our Club (NSC). Marek (in Ottawa) -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:19:24 -0800 From: Richard Davis rdavis2...@me.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Climing over

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Prime Interest
, 2014 12:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.looks to be factory but not surecan send you a pic offline if you want. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/02/05 3:33 PM

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Abbott *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.looks to be factory but not surecan send you a pic

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Watts
, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.looks to be factory but not surecan send you a pic offline if you want. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Joel Aronson
, that would be helpful. John johnrussob...@optonline.net *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Abbott *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Watts
@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.looks to be factory but not surecan send you a pic offline if you want. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/02/05 3:33 PM, John Russo

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Joel Aronson
:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.looks to be factory but not surecan send you a pic offline if you want. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Watts
*From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Abbott *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain John Our 32 has a lower rail

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Joel Aronson
Jim, Yup, I'm screwed. However, if I'm solo chances are I'm never going to catch the boat. I've never timed myself in a pool, but I'm no Michael Phelps, especially with a PFD. I no longer put out my horseshoe when I'm solo. No one to throw it to me! However, I will revisit the bungee in the

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
One of the first things I added to my Mirage 24 was a extendable stern ladder - tied it to the stern rail with a line that would allow release from the water. During my reading online I came across a couple of cases where people had died, having fallen off

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread dwight
if necessary holds it up very well all season long. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: February 6, 2014 7:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain One of the first things I

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Davis
...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: February 6, 2014 7:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain One of the first things I added to my Mirage 24 was a extendable stern ladder - tied it to the stern rail with a line

Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Ron Kaye
Has anyone put a hinged gate in the stern rail so that one can clamber up the swim ladder and not have to climb over the rail? I'm thinking this might make the stern rail too weak when the gate is open. Has this been discussed? Anybody bothered by this? -- Ron Lisa 35-3 Mr. Bop

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I've seen people add lifeline gates. It involves having the pulpit modified of course (middle section removed). Yeah, it's a pain climbing over the rail. I always instruct my guests to grab a hold of the backstay to steady themselves. (split backstay) Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Wed, Feb 5,

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Joel Aronson
My stern rail has a lower rail and a gate instead of an upper rail. Yes, its a pain! I wonder how much you would weaken the rail if it were split with two gates too. However, I only use the ladder when the boat is on the hard. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stevan Plavsa

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
It would definitely weaken the stern rail both when open and when closed. However, when closed it would only move a slight bit. A lot would depend on whether your pulpit has a second rail. Most CC's I've seen only have a single rail. The easy way to add a gate is to cut the top rail and add a

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Joel Aronson
Dennis, The backstay is so close to the helm seat that you can't sit comfortably when the boat is upright! If I ever have to replace the backstay I will consider making it a split stay. Then the walk thru transom. Then Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Dennis

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread John Russo
: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain My stern rail has a lower rail and a gate instead of an upper rail. Yes, its a pain! I wonder how much you would weaken the rail if it were split with two gates too. However

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Fair, Mike
: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain I have a 32 with a double rail at the stern and am thinking about cutting the upper and adding a gate. My swim ladder actually comes slightly above the lower rail when up where

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Gary Nylander
Sell it and buy a 30-1. They come with a split pulpit and a gate. Gary - Original Message - From: Ron Kaye To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:18 PM Subject: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain Has anyone put a hinged gate

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread bobmor99 .
Ox, a 33-1, has a single rail at the stern. The infrequent sternal ingress is made below the rail. It gets less easy with age and increasing body mass. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Ron Kaye ronkaye...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone put a hinged gate in the stern rail so

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Jim Watts
{infrequent sternal ingress} You Floridians will do anything for a giggle. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 February 2014 18:03, bobmor99 . bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Ox, a 33-1, has a single rail at the stern. The infrequent sternal ingress is made below the rail. It

Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain

2014-02-05 Thread Ron Kaye
I see there are good ways to ease sternal ingress. As long as the outboard is well supported it can only improve the sailing experience. But in all seriousness I'm surprised that ease of sternal ingress isn't regarded as an important safety consideration for MOB scenarios. Dragging an