On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:16, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 10 Jun 2008, at 05:12, Mark Munz wrote:
Just wishing for the problem to go away or blaming external criteria
will almost guarantee that nothing gets done. Filing bugs is how you,
the developer, communicate your needs to Apple.
Since ICU is open
On 10 Jun 2008, at 05:12, Mark Munz wrote:
Just wishing for the problem to go away or blaming external criteria
will almost guarantee that nothing gets done. Filing bugs is how you,
the developer, communicate your needs to Apple.
Since ICU is open source, the other productive thing to do
On 9 Jun '08, at 10:38 PM, Michael Ash wrote:
It's perfectly possible to write safe code that calls C
str functions. My code is no more vulnerable than the next man's. You
can call things like strnstr, pass the length of the NSData you're
working on, and there is exactly zero risk of anything.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Jens Alfke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9 Jun '08, at 10:38 PM, Michael Ash wrote:
It's perfectly possible to write safe code that calls C
str functions. My code is no more vulnerable than the next man's. You
can call things like strnstr, pass the length of
On 7 Jun '08, at 10:24 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
1) There are certain basics like regex support that people are upset
at Apple for not implementing because it seems like such an important
part of the concept of strings.
Agreed, and I made this argument many times while there. Part of the
On 8 Jun '08, at 3:39 AM, Michael Ash wrote:
I never cared about the lack of regex support personally, although I
understand that people do use them. As far as a blessed solution goes,
man regex gives you a library that's in libSystem and is part of
POSIX, so it's as supported as you can get.
On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
On 7 Jun '08, at 10:24 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
1) There are certain basics like regex support that people are upset
at Apple for not implementing because it seems like such an important
part of the concept of strings.
Agreed, and I made this
On 6/9/08, Adam R. Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, I think filing bug reports on this is a waste of time at
this point. I'm still using AGRegex, which is based on a pretty ancient
PCRE, but it's predated by (at least) MOKit and OFRegularExpression:
Filing bugs against this
On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:11 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
I thought I read on the Xcode users list that Xcode is using ICU for
regex find-and-replace, so it's too bad the rest of us can't use it.
I recall the same. And further, I am of the understanding that
NSPredicate uses ICU for its pattern
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jens Alfke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Jun '08, at 3:39 AM, Michael Ash wrote:
I do this with a fair amount of regularity. NSString is unsuitable for
working with data whose encoding is unknown or doubtful, and NSData
doesn't have any string-like
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Mark Munz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/7/08, Michael Ash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course Mac OS X does come with a regex library, it just doesn't
have an ObjC interface. There's more to what's available than Cocoa,
and one of the great things about ObjC
Ilan Volow wrote:
Back in the
Jaguar-era when I had to write applications that made heavy use of XML
and regular expressions, Cocoa-Java saved the day--no 3rd-party nonsense
required.
This in not a knock on Ilan. His mail just happens to embody an attitude
that I see quite frequently on
In math, a result is 'elegant' if it just _does_ something, simply and
quickly, rather than relying on a mass of machinery done elsewhere,
that you either have to assume works or spend time understanding. A
large dependency can make it harder to say what, exactly, are the key
lynchpins that make
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As someone who has worked on a number of 3rd party [open source and
otherwise] frameworks, I wonder where this attitude comes from in the case
of Cocoa/Mac OS X. I have some ideas, but I hesitate to share them.
Four
On Jun 7, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Kevin Grant wrote:
It is possible to link your application through C to an
interpreter like Python or Perl, and rely on the built-in
regular expression libraries to do your work. If you
really wanted to, you could fire off a call to /usr/bin/egrep.
That last
snip/
Agree with your sentiments. Not everything needs to be shipped by
default.
The only other environment where I've programmed that this same
attitude may rear its head could be Java land, but even there that
attitude does not seem to rear its head quite so often as it seems
to on
On 6/7/08, Michael Ash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course Mac OS X does come with a regex library, it just doesn't
have an ObjC interface. There's more to what's available than Cocoa,
and one of the great things about ObjC is how easy it is to talk to
these pure C libraries and get them
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