RE: [hivemind] what exactly is the issue here?

Rodney Waldhoff wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > We're not the ones whom Howard needs to discuss this with. > Yes and no. I'm on the Jakarta PMC, you're an ASF member, we're > both jakarta commons committers, so I belive and as I understand > it, we are among the ones Howar

[Chain] ContextToRequestCommand

Any feedback on this Command implementation? The idea is that as a chain of commands is executing objects get aggregated into a map. The context holds a reference to the map. At the tail end of the execution chain, this command places the objects from the map into the request as request attri

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

Stephen, Have you any tests to prove there is actually a performance gain? Surely either (or both) the java compiler or the JVM should be responsible for optimizations such as this. Gareth. Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: "Brian McCallister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Monday, November 3, 2003, a

[ANN] Jakarta Commons Primitives 1.0 Released

The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce the first release of Jakarta Commons Primitives. Primitives provides a collection of types and utilities optimized for working with Java primitives (boolean, byte, char, double, float, int, long, short). Generally, the Commons-Primitives classes are

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/xdocs components.xml

rwaldhoff2003/11/05 17:07:09 Modified:docs components.html xdocscomponents.xml Log: update for primitives 1.0 release Revision ChangesPath 1.128 +14 -9 jakarta-commons/docs/components.html Index: components.html ==

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/primitives project.xml build.xml

rwaldhoff2003/11/05 17:06:58 Modified:primitives project.xml build.xml Log: update version number to 2.0-dev Revision ChangesPath 1.10 +1 -1 jakarta-commons/primitives/project.xml Index: project.xml

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

From: "Phil Steitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anyone have any objections to committing this to the decorators subpackage? > > Phil +1. The test needs work as its not a collections-testframework test. Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mai

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/primitives/xdocs index.xml

rwaldhoff2003/11/05 16:55:23 Modified:primitives/xdocs index.xml Log: add link to 1.0 release Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +4 -4 jakarta-commons/primitives/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml ===

Re: [primitives] Object/JDK integration - was Proposed interface changes

As people may or may not be aware, the sandbox contains an implementation of primitive collections that works differently from [primitives]. * [primitives] (commons-proper) - IntCollection is a top-level interface in its own right. A wrapper is needed to integrate with JDK Collection. * primitives

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21269] - FileUploadBase does not handle quoted boundary specification, which is required by RFC 1521

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21269] - FileUploadBase does not handle quoted boundary specification, which is required by RFC 1521

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request sandbox karma

Hi, I was wondering if someone could grant me sandbox karma so I can make some contributions to commons-naming. My apache CVS username is "brett". Thanks in advance, Brett

[math] logging and exception handling in distributions

There's been a Convergence Exception used in ContinuedFraction and special.Gamma for some time now. I was able to remove the logging references from the util.Transformer implementations by creating a TransformerException and wrapping exceptions and passing them out to the application. This allo

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

Arun Thomas wrote: > "The toCollection(), toList(), etc. stuff would be no different > (other than the collection overhead) from toArray(). What would get > copied are object references." > > I understood the proposed methods would work in this way. I guess my > questions is why it would be parti

RE: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

"The toCollection(), toList(), etc. stuff would be no different (other than the collection overhead) from toArray(). What would get copied are object references." I understood the proposed methods would work in this way. I guess my questions is why it would be particularly useful to add these

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Phil Steitz wrote: I agree with your assessment of that platform; but your comment raises an interesting question: to what extent should commons component design decisions be influenced by characteristics of the user base. My opinion is "lots." "Lame and broken" as it may be, WebLogic 5 on N

[OT] Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

--- Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Graham wrote: > > --- Charles Hudak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>>Mark wrote: > >>> > Eric Pugh wrote: > This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of > >>> > >>places. > >> > However, I think it is a bit

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

David Graham wrote: --- Charles Hudak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark wrote: Eric Pugh wrote: This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of places. However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server environment, I understand the problem, but in a ser

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Charles Hudak wrote: Mark wrote: Eric Pugh wrote: This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of places. However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with lots of harddrive space,

[OT] Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Sorry for a little offtopic post. Charles Hudak wrote: I think that this comment is a little shortsighted. We are still using weblogic 5.1 and constantly have problems with the multitude of third party libraries that we are using. WL 5.1 does not seem to find libraries in the WEB-INF/lib director

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

--- Charles Hudak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Mark wrote: > >> Eric Pugh wrote: > >> This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of > places. > >> However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non > server > >> environment, I understand the problem, but in a s

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/httpclient/src/test/org/apache/commons/httpclient TestHttpConnection.java

olegk 2003/11/05 12:45:34 Modified:httpclient/src/java/org/apache/commons/httpclient HttpConnection.java HttpMethodBase.java httpclient/src/test/org/apache/commons/httpclient TestHttpConnection.java Log: Changelog: -

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

>Mark wrote: >> Eric Pugh wrote: >> This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of places. >> However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server >> environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with lots >> of harddrive space, I don't.

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

I'm trying organize this thread a little bit more than was accomplished in the discussion. 1.) Argument exists concerning the dependency requirements of Commons Math. To in fact be "modular" and "easily integrated" some discrepancy arises concerning interdependency with other commons components

Re: Dealing with unreleased pool objects

Tomcat uses BasicDataSource in the DBCP component (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dbcp/) as its default datasource implementation. Like you said it has support for abandoned connections. See http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/dbcp/src/java/org/apache/commons/dbcp/AbandonedObject

Re: [configuration] thread-safe?

Eric, I haven't thought about the details of accessing properties in a singleton yet. In the first line I was interested in the advantages such an approach would have for initialization of the configuration framework. On its creation the singleton instance could locate the configuration descr

RE: Dealing with unreleased pool objects

Howdy, Tomcat 4.x uses DBCP 2.0 and that version of DBCP supports reaping and logging of abandoned connections. DBCP 2.1 marks all these methods as deprecated for reasons that are unknown to me, but I bet you could find out by searching this list's archives. Hopefully DBCP 2.2 and later will pro

Re: [primitives] Proposed interface changes

Some comments inline. I'll use the voting syntax, in an effort to be concise, not formal. On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > I would like to propose the following changes for the primitives code as we > establish it: > > New interface Collectable (better names?). Superinterface of

Dealing with unreleased pool objects

I've been reviewing the source code as I've been contemplating having my existing pool implementations delegate to the commons pool implementations. One issue that I have, however, is that the current pool implementations do not appear to deal with 'abandoned' pool objects. We all agree that clien

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

Arun Thomas wrote: >>> The last comment suggests another possibly useful method: >>> toList(), returning an aggregated collection consisting of all of >>> the objects in the composite collections. >> > > In this case, will there be a clever way to return an aggregation of > this sort that isn't sim

Re: Adding DbUtils to Bugzilla

--- David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can some karma gifted person add DbUtils to the Commons. Weird, Yahoo truncated my message. DbUtils is already in the Commons. We just need it added to bugzilla. David __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Ya

Adding DbUtils to Bugzilla

Can some karma gifted person add DbUtils to the Commons __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

RE: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

>> The last comment suggests another possibly useful method: toList(), >> returning an aggregated collection consisting of all of the objects >> in the composite collections. In this case, will there be a clever way to return an aggregation of this sort that isn't simply a new object with copie

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

FWIW the math proposal actually says: "Emphasis on small, easily integrated components rather than large libraries with c

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 11:31 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: Note the similarity to the API doc for add: "Ensures that this collection contains the specified element (optional operation). Returns true if this collection changed as a result of the call. (Returns false if this collection does no

Re: [functor] possible contributions

I would just do it as an internal class for the time being. On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Herve Quiroz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:06:37AM -0800, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: > > > There are some others but I need to classify them and decide which ones > > > are generic enough to be part of commons-funct

Re: [functor] possible contributions

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:06:37AM -0800, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: > > There are some others but I need to classify them and decide which ones > > are generic enough to be part of commons-functor... > > > > Obviously, I will provide everything with complete Javadoc support and > > test cases whenever

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

Brian McCallister wrote: On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: I think that that javadoc for remove is incorrect when it says: "This implementation calls remove() on each collection." It stops when it finds the element to be removed. The contract needs to be made more

Re: [commons] Bugzilla and components

Thanks :-) Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003, Mark R. Diggory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons components list in bugzilla? Done. In general there are a bunch of people on this list who have karma to do so, so just ask - bu

[results][math] Votes for Brent Warden and Al Chou as commiters

Brent Warden (for new committer) +1 = 6 +0 = 0 -0 = 0 -1 = 0 Al Chou (for new committer) +1 = 6 +0 = 0 -0 = 0 -1 = 0 I'm still not fully versed on the process of setting up the accounts etc. I remember that I had to complete some info concerning my account name and personal info. Al and Brent you

[results][math] Votes for J. Pietchmann to get karma for math project

J. Pietchmann (for karmic rights in math project) +1 = 6 +0 = 0 -0 = 0 -1 = 0 Pietchmann, you need to complete this and send it back to the pmc. Karma request form: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CVS karma request userid: ... Requested karma: [/]

Re: [commons] Bugzilla and components

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003, Mark R. Diggory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons > components list in bugzilla? Done. In general there are a bunch of people on this list who have karma to do so, so just ask - but don't do so burried deep in a

[Math] Commons Math Contributions

I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help out. This is my first open source contribution effort and am looking forward to extending to other projects. I have a background in Mathematics (MS and thesis work in Stochastic Analysis) and for the past several years

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:54:14 -0800 (PST), "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Agreed, especially because Jakarta's mission is to create *server* > side libraries. [...] > The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is > available and runs well on all the major platforms I ca

Commons Math Contributions

I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help out. This is my first open source contribution effort and am looking forward to extending to other projects. I have a background in Mathematics (MS and thesis work in Stochastic Analysis) and for the past several years

[commons] Bugzilla and components

How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons components list in bugzilla? -Mark -- Mark Diggory Software Developer Harvard MIT Data Center http://www.hmdc.harvard.edu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Math] Commons Math Contributions

Mike and Matt, To try to answer your questions as best as possible. First and foremost, become familiar with the goals and guiding principles we initially set out to maintain the math project here. http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/math/proposal.html http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/math/devel

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

> Did I have the right to do [develop HiveMind on WebCT's time]? > At the time, I was 100% certain I did ... No one is suggesting that you didn't act in good faith, Howard. What is making a mountain out of a molehill is your apparent unwillingness to involve the proper channels in the process. A

Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Robert Leland wrote: > You've acknowledged that when you commit any code to Apache you give up > ownership of that code. That's not quite right. When you commit any code to Apache (under the Contributors License Agreement), you grant the ASF a non-exclusive right to that code

RE: [Math] Commons Math Contributions

I'm in the same boat, a good answer would be appreciated (I've gotten a wide variety). Another thing I'm wondering is should we add ourselves as an author when we submit a patch or is that just if you're a commiter? worse is better -Original Message- From: Matt Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Gary Gregory wrote: The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is available and runs well on all the major platforms I can think of. We should be careful with 1.3 vs. 1.4. From my POV, sadly, the majority of our customers run on a version WebSphere that only supports 1.3, whic

[Math] Commons Math Contributions

- Original Message - From: "Matt Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:08 AM Subject: Commons Math Contributions > I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help > out. > > This is my first open source contribu

Re: [functor] possible contributions

I had another look at the current implementation of And/Or last night. As the implementation already uses a collection, why not providing a constructor with a collection as a parameter: public Or(Collection collection) { this.list.addAll(collection); } (Or adding predicate one by one just

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

I also like the idea of clearly established dependencies. It would be nice for example, if we could slice and dice [lang] and [collections] such that they could depend on a "core" set of jars. Gary > -Original Message- > From: __matthewHawthorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesda

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

> The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is available > and runs well on all the major platforms I can think of. We should be careful with 1.3 vs. 1.4. From my POV, sadly, the majority of our customers run on a version WebSphere that only supports 1.3, which means that our pro

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

David Graham wrote: In this case, it looks like commons-lang and commons-logging are only needed because math doesn't use Java 1.4 as the base level. Moving to Java 1.4 has the advantage of providing exception chaining and logging in the Java core and eliminates 2 jars. Obviously, the disadvant

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

--- Eric Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of > places. > However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server > environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with > lots > of harddrive space,

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Brian McCallister wrote: On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 09:26 AM, __matthewHawthorne wrote: Why does a math module depend on a logging module for deployment? Have the unit tests log, not the math functions. =) > -Brian Bright Idea...I hadn't really thought about that. :-) -- Mark Diggo

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Hehehe, thats a novel idea. Ok to be devils advocate... Your coming at this from "one jar" perspective. Which leads me to wonder why having math be "one jar" is important to you? Can you please elaborate on this? And to the rest of the community I postulate: Is this a critical usage case? The

RE: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of places. However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with lots of harddrive space, I don't. Additionally, since in a server app you are

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 09:26 AM, __matthewHawthorne wrote: I, for one, like the idea of commons projects depending on each other when necessary. There is always a lot of controversy with regards to "including another jar" that I don't quite understand. I agree that if there are on

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 07:48 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: I've updated the class in line with commons standards/documentation etc. It will probably end up in the decorators subpackage, as it decorates other collections. A few style questions about this... You have changed the array t

Re: [collections] [PATCH] CompositeCollection class for Commons-Collections

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: I think that that javadoc for remove is incorrect when it says: "This implementation calls remove() on each collection." It stops when it finds the element to be removed. The contract needs to be made more explicit here. It might a

Re: [Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

I, for one, like the idea of commons projects depending on each other when necessary. There is always a lot of controversy with regards to "including another jar" that I don't quite understand. I agree that if there are only 1 or 2 references, it may be reasonable to include the dependencies

[Math] common-math and bloated 3rd party libraries

Hi gang, I love commons-math, one problem though! lets take a look at the dependecies common-lang: 189 kb commons-beanutils: 116 kb commons-collections-SNAPSHOT.jar 463 commons-discovery 70 kb commons-logging-1.0.3.jar 31 kb kb Thats 850 kb!!! of 3rd party libraries that are only used in a few p