I'm not sure about that Travis, I'm not too familiar with those
projects. I'm guessing most commons projects will be affected or can be
enhanced with JDK1.5. It appears it will take some time to generate the
interest necessary to do the work though.
Travis Zimmerman wrote:
Could BeanUtils an
Could BeanUtils and/or Betwixt also benefit from enhancements in JDK1.5?
Primarily annotations.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:18 PM
To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java
Hi everyone, I'm the other half of the team that did the generifying (if
that's even a word) of collections. Sorry I've been silent so far during
the discussion of what to do with the new collections, I was out of town
and just got caught up with the debate.
So after reading the discussion and
Hi John,
First off, thanks for the time and effort you guys have put into the port.
Having joined Chris recently on the Collections15 port, I understand the
work that
is required to get this done.
Some comments and thoughts below.
> Our approach was to shoot for supporting generics in the
> ma
Hi Chris, you've made excellent points, which I'll address below:
---
1. The port appears to me to be a direct attempt to take the existing
collections codebase and generify its API. It's an approach I initially
took but abandoned after a while when I realised that much of the
existing codebas
Hi all,
Sometime last summer, a there was a discussion about providing a generic
port of collections. The upshot was that no Apache commiters could
commit to providing time to handle this at Apache, and so I started the
collections15.sf.net project over on SourceForge. A lot of the issues
rai
e new warning messages, but at least the code
would work. Right?
James
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From: Stephen Colebourne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:56 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java Generics Support
John Watkinson wrote:
We are definitely ready and willing to
bring the code back in to the Jakarta Commons when the time is right.
Our goal was to get it done so that developers (us included) could start
using and improving it, but we hope that we can eventually contribute it
all back to the C
> 1) Should it be a separate project or a branch of Commons-Collections?
>
> It is the case that Java 1.5 classes are NOT binary compatible with
> previous runtime environments (1.4 and earlier). So, the original
> Collections have a very long life ahead of them. Also, an enormous
> number of thir
Hi guys,
Thanks for your interest in this. We are definitely ready and willing to
bring the code back in to the Jakarta Commons when the time is right.
Our goal was to get it done so that developers (us included) could start
using and improving it, but we hope that we can eventually contribute
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> From: Simon Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:12 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java Generics Support
>
> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 16:05 +0200, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> > O
, 2005 11:12 AM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java Generics Support
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 16:05 +0200, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> On 5/24/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why can't we host this project at ASF? Coul
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Subject: Re: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java Generics Support
Mattias J wrote:
>> There is also the question of how large the generic collections
>> community will be. There aren't yet a whole lot of projects coding to
>> 1.5 as far as
> But I wonder if we could let the jdk 1.3 behind us and move on to jdk
> 1.5 by allowing backward compatiblity with retroweaver.
> At least with new to create x.0 branches.
> For sure that forbid us to use any new api feature, but we can use
> generics and some other new programming style stuff.
In summary, I don't think the number of people interested in 1.5 features
will increase while Commons Collections developers just sit around waiting...
Thats not fair.
We do what we can and mostly in our free time. And its also your
(contributor) job to push a project forward - for sure what y
Mattias J wrote:
There is also the question of how large the generic collections
community will be. There aren't yet a whole lot of projects coding to
1.5 as far as I know.
We use JDK 1.5 since the 1.5.0_01 is out and already use it in
productive environments.
Dont know how large the community i
At 2005-05-24 17:11, Simon Kitching wrote:
There is also the question of how large the generic collections
community will be. There aren't yet a whole lot of projects coding to
1.5 as far as I know.
Assuming this statement is true (which I am not too sure about), the fact
that many Open Source
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 16:05 +0200, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> On 5/24/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why can't we host this project at ASF? Couldn't we create a new branch for
> > JDK5 collections or something?
>
> +1, though I'd prefer the simple solution of two jars, one for pre-1
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Subject: Re: Commons-Collections enhanced with Java Generics Support
On 5/24/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why can't we host this project at ASF? Couldn't we create a new branch
for
> JDK5 collections or something?
+1, though I'd p
On 5/24/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why can't we host this project at ASF? Couldn't we create a new branch for
> JDK5 collections or something?
+1, though I'd prefer the simple solution of two jars, one for pre-1.5
and one for 1.5 which contains the generics-support (either vers
Why can't we host this project at ASF? Couldn't we create a new branch for
JDK5 collections or something?
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From: John Watkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:10 PM
To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
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