Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On May 13, 2014 6:32 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: just reading through and one issue that stands out with (e.g.: [[file:foo.png|thumb|no-viewer|…]]). format is that many of the small image files are embedded

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Gray
On 19 May 2014 14:50, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: There are images that do not use that syntax but we want to display them, for example infobox main images, gallery templates, images on the main page... But you could launch without the infobox images...? I think this would

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On May 20, 2014 2:46 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 19 May 2014 14:50, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: There are images that do not use that syntax but we want to display them, for example infobox main images, gallery templates, images on the main page...

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-18 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:13 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: The main page seems to be such an obscure case that it might be adressed when we have a better idea than forcing millions of exception edits what you think? Obscure in what sense? I would expect mainpage images to

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-17 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:00 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: Instead of introducing complicated syntax, would it not be better that media viewer only displays thumbs? Quoting from earlier: There are images that do not use that syntax but we want to display them, for example

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-16 Thread Fabrice Florin
Hi guys, We’ve been discussing the various proposals on this thread and don’t see a strong consensus yet. This lack of consensus in our email discussions so far may suggest that our original proposal to use a separate class may not be the best solution for this issue. We are growing

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-14 Thread Krinkle
I'd recommend avoiding classes specific to MultimediaViewer for this purpose. The semantic intent here is to mark images that are not considered part of regular article content. These would be presentational elements like user interface icons, images part of a larger construct (such as clipped

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-14 Thread Gnangarra
whats needed is something that is simple on the front end to use, to wiki-code and maintain it doesnt matter how good a gadget is if its to hard for people to work with they will switch off, either through preferences, other gadgets or altogether. I know it may sound horrid from a programmers

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Making it specific to the idea of a viewer (e.g. no-viewer, viewer-exclude, or for-page-only) is better in my opinion, but only marginally so. I'd recommend aiming for something that reflects what it is and allows

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread dan-nl
i may be mis-understanding the goal … 1, it looks like you want to distinguish between elements on a web page that should be viewable in mediaviewer vs those that should not. 2. you want to use a css class to distinguish these elements. 3. you mentioned that there may be future or other use

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread bawolff
On May 12, 2014 4:32 PM, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, We would appreciate your help to come up with a class name that community members can use to exclude an image from Media Viewer or related tools. Too many small files (like icons, flags, etc.) appear in Media Viewer

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Another option is to make this a property of the image rather than it's use site. That should cover the typical icon well, and with minimal editor effort. Most images are hosted on Commons, so that would mean the

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread Gnangarra
just reading through and one issue that stands out with (e.g.: [[file:foo.png|thumb|no-viewer|…]]). format is that many of the small image files are embedded within infoboxes, templates and tables would it be more efficient to restrict media viewer to only images that use the syntax

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread
On 12 May 2014 22:19, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... Should we take this discussion onwiki? or do you think we can resolve it via email? Yes, I don't really understand why this was not on-wiki all along, it seems more natural as a way of getting views from Commons end users. I

Re: [Commons-l] [Multimedia] How to disable MediaViewer for some images

2014-05-12 Thread bawolff
On May 12, 2014 7:29 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Probably much harder to implement... but it might be more consistent to have it as part of the file embedding syntax. E.g. [[file:foo.png|thumb|no-viewer|...]]