Joe Schaefer wrote:
If it doesn't reflect the attitude of the jakarta community,
but instead represents the views of one individual, then doesn't
the page belong in his subdirectory? I dunno, something like
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon/idiot.html
might be more appropriate.
Hey - I've go
Joe Schaefer wrote:
For the sake of argument, you may assume I have looked at
every document in the http://jakarta.apache.org/site/
directory. If you don't see what I'm driving at yet, I
encourage you to post the url of a similar document anywhere
else in the ASF (outside of the jakarta family,
Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It has been pointed out that Jakarta committers have had very little
> exposure to ASF members. Don't judge Jakarta committers by the
> actions of the few ASF members that have cared enough to participate.
I'm not judging the jakarta committers, certainly
And I'll be using Sam as a human blast shield ;-)
Sam Ruby wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
If it doesn't reflect the attitude of the jakarta community, but
instead represents the views of one individual, then doesn't the page
belong in his subdirectory? I dunno, something like
http://jakarta.apach
The Jakarta website is managed by lazy consensus. If any of us
working on the site actually took issue with that page, we'd
just change it. I've often toned down some of the pages posted
by our favorite PITA -- and have even been called a "wimp" for
doing so. But no one's ever reverted my chang
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html as an alternative...
I like the love.html alternative - is embrassing, more depth, warmth,
and has a level of empathy that somehow get's lost in the other document.
Cheers, Steve.
:-D
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original
Stephen McConnell wrote:
I like the love.html alternative - is embrassing, more depth, warmth,
and has a level of empathy that somehow get's lost in the other document.
Cheers, Steve.
:-D
FYI:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] site]$ls -l love.*
lrwxrwxr-x 1 jon jakarta 10 Jul 17 09:47 love.html -> idiot.html
Sam Ruby wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
I like the love.html alternative - is embrassing, more depth, warmth,
and has a level of empathy that somehow get's lost in the other
document.
Cheers, Steve.
:-D
FYI:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] site]$ls -l love.*
lrwxrwxr-x 1 jon jakarta 10 Jul 17 09:47 love
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 12:04:35PM -0800, Morgan Delagrange wrote:
> --- Sander Striker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 28 October 2002 20:36
> >
> > >> Aaron Bannert wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The problem with nominations in a forum that d
A big +1 to what Greg just wrote ..
In any case, since I've not seen any membership nominations
prior to the two this week, I'm surprised to see them in the
most public list of Apache.
I've been lurking on this discussion so far, but it seems to
me that it would be really good for folks to slow d
10/29/2002 5:16:57 AM, Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC
>membership really should be private. I absolutely will not
>participate in such an environment, and will encourage others
>to avoid it also. These kinds of discussions real
Greg Stein wrote:
Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership
really should be private. I absolutely will not participate in such an
environment, and will encourage others to avoid it also. These kinds of
discussions really don't enhance the community.
Greg,
At a minimum
Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >
> > If it doesn't reflect the attitude of the jakarta community,
> > but instead represents the views of one individual, then doesn't
> > the page belong in his subdirectory? I dunno, something like
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon/idiot.htm
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an official
apache web site is going to think it represents the overall apache viewpoint.
i personally don't particularly care to be labelled by it.
should the apache web sites contain 'professional' (as in 'professionalism')
content? if
10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
>official apache web site is going to think it represents the
>overall apache viewpoint. i personally don't particularly care
>to be labelled by it. should the
>
> Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership
> really should be private.
Absolutely.
Bill
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> >should the apache web sites contain 'professional' (as in 'professionalism')
> >content? if so, does this page apply?
> >
> >
> As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
> remove it while I stand behind Sam and u
> > As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
> > remove it while I stand behind Sam and use him as a blast shield. (who
> > mentioned he'd be standing right behind you fa behind you)
>
> With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
> Sam. What
10/29/2002 8:24:38 AM, Joe Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon
>than Sam. What's the point of local governance if the
>governing bodies are incapable of dealing with trivial issues
>like this
>one?
Joe, we're kidding. =:0)
As men
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>I'd like to propose each committer to build a simple home
>page like that one.
That would help those like me who know only a handful of committers.
But where did you put your html to populate http://www.apache.org/~sylvain? Do
all committers have the relevant access to ap
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 October 2002 14:38
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
> >I'd like to propose each committer to build a simple home
> >page like that one.
>
> That would help those like me who know only a handful of committers.
>
> But where did you put your
Greg Stein wrote:
> Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership
> really should be private. I absolutely will not participate in such an
> environment, and will encourage others to avoid it also. These kinds of
> discussions really don't enhance the community.
Totally
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>> I'd like to propose each committer to build a simple home page like
>> that one.
>
> That would help those like me who know only a handful of committers.
>
> But where did you put your html to populate
> http://www.apache.org/~sylvain? Do all comm
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sander Striker wrote:
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 October 2002 14:38
>
> > Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> >
> > >I'd like to propose each committer to build a simple home
> > >page like that one.
> >
> > That would help those like me who know
Joe Schaefer wrote:
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sam. What's the point of local governance if the governing bodies
are incapable of dealing with trivial issues like this one?
FYI: Jon was the person who first nominated me as chair of Jakarta:
http://jakarta.ap
Thanks for the responses. http://cvs.apache.org/~ will do fine for us
second class citizens. ;-)
Glyn
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
> 10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
> >official apache web site is going to think it represents the
> >overall apache viewpoint. i personally don't part
Using Sam as a blast shield seems safer ;-)
Sam Ruby wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sam. What's the point of local governance if the governing bodies
are incapable of dealing with trivial issues like this one?
FYI: Jon was the person
James Taylor wrote:
As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
remove it while I stand behind Sam and use him as a blast shield. (who
mentioned he'd be standing right behind you fa behind you)
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sa
Kurt Schrader wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
official apache web site is going to think it represents the
overall apache viewpoint. i perso
>
> I'm guessing Jon mailed people the URL as a list moderator.
>
The first time I saw it used was when someone asked a tomcat question on
general and was kindly requested to take his question to the tomcat list. He
replied : I'm on the correct list, so why don't you answer me.. Then jon
replied w
Hey Greg,
--- Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 12:04:35PM -0800, Morgan
> Delagrange wrote:
> > --- Sander Striker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > From: Morgan Delagrange
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 28 October 2002 20:36
> > >
> > > >> Aaron Bannert
one of the continual battles we've had at jakarta is policing the mailing
list and general in particular.
people wanting to join a mailing list from the jakarta list have to go
through two pages to get the actual lists in order to try to reduce the
need for people to police the list guidelines.
>
> You make a lot of good points. Let me be devil's
> advocate and make a couple explicit points that I
> think you imply above:
>
> 1) ASF membership is very important
> 2) ASF membership is more likely to be contentious
> than other decisions for that reason
>
> Perhaps some middle ground could
robert burrell donkin wrote:
...
but i'm not sure how much more can be done. the lists are so busy that
they have to be policed.
it'd be a good idea to come up with some better solutions. maybe we
could increase the size of the email footers
Is it technically possible to add *headers* instead o
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2. new box for 'doze heads called unstable.apache.org that runs WIN
> XP or something that they can log into and do for themselves
It'll be a cold day in hell. ;-)
--
Daniel Rall
Aaron Bannert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[ ] View 1: Open the list completely, anyone can subscribe, post and read
the archive
[X] View 2: Keep the list open only to committers, members and invitees
(highly contributive developers and users) so far as posting goes,
however allow a
Okay, it was funny the first time, but now it's REALLY FUNNY!
/me is laughing so hard he's nearly in tears
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Using Sam as a blast shield seems safer ;-)
>
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> > Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> With all due respect, you might be
"Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It is not only for the nominee but also for the voting body.
> When someone other than a fellow voter is looking at you
> expectantly, people tend to act differently. [Try stuffing
> a camera in someones face and see if you can spot behaviour
> chang
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