Re: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to Vadim Gritsenko: > Gnome.org is protesting too. debian.org and kde.org as well. ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht - There's always one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Though I personally support the patent protest; and have been heavily donating bits, bandwidth,bytes and storage to the cause as a private citizen; I am not too eager to see the ASF jump into the political arena. FWIW, I checked around. N

EU Software Patents protest action

2003-08-27 Thread Steven Noels
Hi peeps, my colleagues are just back from the live demonstration in front of the EU offices. Several hundreds of people where effectively there, and while we will never know whether such actions have any effect, I was proud to be able to tell them that all ASF sites were participating with the on

RE: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > Though I personally support the patent protest; and have been heavily > donating bits, bandwidth,bytes and storage to the cause as a private > citizen; I am not too eager to see the ASF jump into the political > arena. FWIW, I checked around. None of: www.gnu.or

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, David Reid wrote: > Bill, are you seriously saying that laws in the EU will not have any impact > on the way the ASF carries on it's affairs? It saddens me as I thought we'd > moved away from this sort of small minded view of the world :( No, it means that, at least as far as

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread David Reid
This particular line of reasoning doesn't sit very well with me. Bill, are you seriously saying that laws in the EU will not have any impact on the way the ASF carries on it's affairs? It saddens me as I thought we'd moved away from this sort of small minded view of the world :( david > At 12:4

RE: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:44 PM 8/26/2003, Danny Angus wrote: >If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing >software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. I will say that I'm pleased the members were able to turn the ship so quickly to support the initiative, it sho

Re: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread David N. Welton
Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure - _if_ patent offices in europe are as bad/careless as in the > US and _if_ cost recovery is made harder and _if_ the originality > clase is swept under the table and _if_ the courts turn the table so > that proving prior art suddenly become

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:16 -0400 (Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org) Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of > email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several > peopl

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Thom May wrote: > >> The page is currently at http://cvs.apache.org/~gianugo/apache-protest.html >> and simply imposes a 60 second delay on viewing the current ASF index page. >> The page contains very simple text that is non-inflammatory wordings and >> fits nicely with the ASF website look and f

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > Ken, if you feel *burdens* for the moderations of XX mailing > lists, please feel free to contact me. I think I can deal with > 250-500 additional mails per day for now. (Now: 500-700 mails per day) i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of em

EU patents: thanks!

2003-08-27 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
I just wanted to spend a few lines after noticing that the ASF web sites are participating to the EU protest. It was a very nice and somwhow unexpected surprise since I haven't seen any formal decision on that (I'd assume that it took place on members@ or board@). So, thanks to the ASF for bein

Re: Draft proposal for EU patents protest

2003-08-27 Thread Jeff Trawick
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: This is a quickly made-up text for the Apache sites to show up tomorrow. If there is any agreement on that, I can come up with an HTML version (including the ASF logo, the redirect meta and all the yadda-yadda)... Please feel free to comment, rephrase and correct my non-

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
+1 On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 00:30, David Reid wrote: > This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for > the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main > ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal > being voted on

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Henri Gomez
David Reid a écrit : This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal being voted on and our support for the campaign agains

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Henri Gomez
Danny Angus a écrit : If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. +1, this EU works (as many others), is a shame - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> In any case, I'd like to advise everyone to state your opposition by > just writing to your Representative/Member of EU Parliament: see > http://wwwdb.europarl.eu.int/ep5/owa/ > p_meps2.repartition?ilg=EN&iorig=home for their mail and postal > addresses. And when you do - _please_ use a fax or

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, I simply stole^Wborrowed the layout from Martins' Torque announcement. I will put "Jakarta Turbine" in for the final release. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards Henning On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:56, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 > Henning

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:52:58 -0400 Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This isn't nice. :-( > henning, that's a judgement made from too little information. > if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages > to that address to see which should be moderated, you

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose > that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index > page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our > opposition to the proposal being v

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to > opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the > demo. Same here. Stefan -

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 27 aoû 2003, à 00:30 Europe/Zurich, David Reid a écrit : This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal be

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
David Reid wrote: This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal being voted on and our support for the campaign against i

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it). > > Regards > Henning Ditto: (+1) Also, I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can use the same script, if the moderators of [EMAIL