OASIS

2004-06-27 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Within the ASF we have a number of projects which deal with formats and standards close to OASIS. We've been approached by OASIS to see if it makes sense to join them. This is a call out to Community to see if that makes sense. There are a number of obstacles when working with OASIS (or th

Re: OASIS

2004-06-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: I'll give this conversation a week or so to build up; and if not - will send a polite msg to Oasis saying; thanks for the offer but not at this time. I think you should also provide some list of 'benefits' for ASF to participate. (Additional work

Re: OASIS

2004-06-27 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > I'll give this conversation a week or so to build up; and if not - will > > send a polite msg to Oasis saying; thanks for the offer but not at this > > time. > > I think you should also provide some list of 'b

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Leo Simons
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Within the ASF we have a number of projects which deal with formats and standards close to OASIS. random examples: docbook, uddi, relax ng. We've been approached by OASIS to see if it makes sense to join them. This is a call out to Community to see if that makes

RE: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> We've been approached by OASIS to see if it makes sense to join them. > This is a call out to Community to see if that makes sense. > There are a number of obstacles when working with OASIS (or the w3c for > that matter) compared to working with some of the other/normal standa

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Torsten Curdt
But having said that - we've been able to resolve these issues in the past with some other similar organisations. So - community - do we see enough benefit to start this conversation with Oasis ? Do we want to be close to some of their standards ? If the issues can be resolved this doesn&#x

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Torsten Curdt dijo: >> But having said that - we've been able to resolve these issues in the >> past with some other similar organisations. >> >> So - community - do we see enough benefit to start this conversation >> with >> Oasis ? Do we want to be clos

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Leo Simons wrote: > > Within the ASF we have a number of projects which deal with formats > > and standards close to OASIS. > > random examples: docbook, uddi, relax ng. And POI for the office doc standards; something Oasis is getting into seriously.

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jun 27, 2004, at 5:20 PM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: I'll give this conversation a week or so to build up; and if not - will send a polite msg to Oasis saying; thanks for the offer but not at this time. I think you should also provide some li

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Sam Ruby
Leo Simons wrote: If there's enough volunteers. So, far, are there *ANY* volunteers? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Jun 28, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Leo Simons wrote: If there's enough volunteers. So, far, are there *ANY* volunteers? If we manage to sort out the infrastructure/logistics and all the other points Dirk correctly raised, count me in. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. - http

RE: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sam Ruby wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: >> If there's enough volunteers. > So, far, are there *ANY* volunteers? I would hope that at least folks who are directly involved, particularly from our Web Services, Portals and XML-Security projects, would volunteer. I have a few specific names in mind.

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > > So, far, are there *ANY* volunteers? > > If we manage to sort out the infrastructure/logistics and all the other > points Dirk correctly raised, count me in. The volutneers wil be an active part of that - though we'll make sure that wee offer as

Re: OASIS

2004-06-28 Thread Sam Ruby
there effectively were a number of ASF people who were participating as "independents" in the JCP process. And there was interest from the ASF in formalizing this. If we create a formal relationship with OASIS, I want to ensure that it is sustainab

Re: OASIS

2004-06-29 Thread David N. Welton
Debian has been part of the OASIS group for a couple years. If you are interested, I can ask the person spearheading that to send a message to this list. -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http

Re: OASIS

2004-06-29 Thread David Crossley
David N. Welton wrote: > Debian has been part of the OASIS group for a couple years. If you > are interested, I can ask the person spearheading that to send a > message to this list. I reckon that is a good idea. It would be relevant to hear how other opensource groups have m

Re: OASIS

2004-06-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, David Crossley wrote: > David N. Welton wrote: > > Debian has been part of the OASIS group for a couple years. If you > > are interested, I can ask the person spearheading that to send a > > message to this list. > > I reckon that is a good id

Re: OASIS

2004-06-29 Thread David N. Welton
Hi Mark, I'm writing to you on behalf of the Apache Software Foundation, and as a fellow member of the Debian project. In short, we're considering joining the OASIS group, and I mentioned that Debian has been involved, and thought you might be a good person for people to chat with

Re: OASIS

2004-06-30 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would hope that at least folks who are directly involved, particularly from our Web Services, Portals and XML-Security projects, would volunteer. I have a few specific names in mind. . I think I've mentioned in the past I'd be interested in the security areas. Cheers,

Re: OASIS

2004-07-01 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Couple of the folks working on implementing WS-SecureConversation are interested in joining that TC (if and when it appears in OASIS ..). Sanjiva. - Original Message - From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: RE: OA

RE: OASIS

2004-07-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Couple of the folks working on implementing WS-SecureConversation > are interested in joining that TC (if and when it appears in > OASIS ..). Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > If we manage to sort out the infrastructure/logistics and all the > other points

Re: OASIS

2004-07-02 Thread Ben Hyde
On Jun 27, 2004, at 2:09 PM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Within the ASF we have a number of projects which deal with formats and standards close to OASIS. This needed not be an all or nothing enterprise. We could establish a mailing list who's topic is "OASIS: what's the d

Re: OASIS

2004-07-10 Thread David N. Welton
Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure, I'd be happy to speak with any (or all) of you. We can do IRC, or a > telcon, ..., whatever works best. > > FWIW, I've found no problems whatsoever regarding our (Debian's) > non-profit status w/ regard to our

Re: OASIS

2004-07-10 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
soever regarding our (Debian's) > > non-profit status w/ regard to our involvement in OASIS projects. > > Mark has received nothing from anyone here and is asking me if anyone > has any questions. > > So are we going to join? No? Is it settled? Are you sure you have > n

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2004-07-07 Thread Julie MacNaught
As I understand this, OASIS wants to grant Apache members (i.e. committers), the ability to join OASIS committees as if Apache were a member company. This would be really handy for ASF committers who are either independent or work for a company that does not belong to OASIS. This is a good

Re: OASIS (fwd)

2004-07-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 17:46:56 -0400 From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: community@apache.org Subject: Re: OASIS Hi Dirk, I'll try to address your comments inline below. Dirk-Wille