Le jeudi 10 janvier 2008 à 22:40 +0100, Tim Niemeyer a écrit :
> Today, i played a bit with power measurement and standby.
> It was very surprising, and the actual power was very different from time
> to time. Sometimes neo booted and did draw about 400mA in idle. Sometimes only
> 280mA.
> In Stan
Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues
before determining whether we need to create another version of the
board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in
the next few months. As always, we can't be
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:03:32 +0100, Lon Lentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of
this?
Searching YouTube gives quite a bunch of results for "OpenMoko".
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Please upload to your site the original image! With your sign on the
lower right corner :) But without blackened moon.
thanks a lot!
speedyx86
Flyin_bbb8 írta:
no the picture is in png format 'n high res.and 1639 KB, should be a
JPG with ok quality then the size will be much more less then ma
Hallo Shawn,
* Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-01-08 15:02]:
> On Jan 10, 2008 2:40 PM, Tim Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > with actual battery you need to minimize the power consumption to 10mA for
> > 5h lifetime!
sry, has you also realised, i mean 5day! ;-)
> What is your metho
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues
before determining whether we need to create another version of the
board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in
the next few months. As always, we can't be more specific, because
we're not sure.
A
> I was thinking of
> > cutting a strip of thin, double-sided PC board material and sticking
> > it between one battery contact and the corresponding phone contact,
> > then connect a current meter between the two planes of that strip.
Alu-stickytape applied on both sides of a thin plastic, e.g. f
Tim Niemeyer schrieb:
> Hallo Shawn,
Hi!
> * Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-01-08 14:19]:
>> Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with
>> unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less
>> than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a G
Of course, F-Secure sell mobile anti-virus software, and he could have
easily avoided infection by employing a more sensible use of
Bluetooth, so I always take these sorts of comments with a pinch of
salt. Having said that, the F-Secure blog is pretty good, and probably
essential reading for anyone
Newsletter #4:
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Enjoy!
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Hi Michael,
Going back to your previous email first:
>Fortunately we have a watchful community to catch our mistakes as
quickly as possible! Please continue to let me know if we make such
mistakes in the future.
Please understand that I wasn't trying to suggest any mistakes had
been made, I was
The original image (no blackened moon, it's a lens reflection) and the most
recent of the wallpaper'd one can be seen here:
http://tanuva.de/index.php/mokocars-at-night-gallery/
@clare:
Maybe I make an even smaller jpegged one (800x600?) as a preview and one
attaches a hires tar.gz version to it
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/11/ces_video_openmoko_handset/
Won't tell you anything you don't already know from the list though.
On Friday 11 January 2008, Lon Lentz wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this?
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 4:2
Sorry about that,
I was doing to much at the same time
On Jan 11, 2008 3:12 PM, Kos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ze gaat gaan schaatsen?
>
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Effectively the resource must be freely access ...
but it could be a good idea that to protect system file from a mistake of
the default user.
After all, on our desktop, most of us are single user but very few log on
directly on root account.
On Jan 11, 2008 1:56 PM, Schmidt András <[EMAIL PROTE
Le 13889ième jour après Epoch,
Schmidt András écrivait:
> In my opinion there is nothing that the root account can protect on a
> single user handheld device.
Think of reflashing OS, apps, etc...
> Phones are normally used single user.
Yes, but this one can probably be multi-users.
Maybe can I
> Michael,
>
> Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this?
Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsps3bj6yE
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I was able to make out "what's new" and "two things that are new" and
nothing after that. We can probably guess he meant wifi and maybe
fixed gsm firmware.
On Jan 11, 2008 8:45 AM, andy selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > Are you aware of any online sites that might have done
Schmidt András writes:
>In my opinion there is nothing that the root account can protect on a
>single user handheld device.
>Phones are normally used single user.
>When an application gets the rights for that user then it can access all
>personal information and all network resources (Wifi, GSM n
The basic filesystem should be protected. Given that OpenMoko is open,
I can install any app I choose, which is great and the entire reason I'm
here. But I'm going to be much more reluctant to install an app that I
did not write if it's going to run as root all the time.
Assuming I fully trust
The basic filesystem should be protected. Given that OpenMoko is open,
I can install any app I choose, which is great and the entire reason I'm
here. But I'm going to be much more reluctant to install an app that I
did not write if it's going to run as root all the time.
Assuming I fully trust
In my opinion there is nothing that the root account can protect on a
single user handheld device.
Phones are normally used single user.
When an application gets the rights for that user then it can access all
personal information and all network resources (Wifi, GSM network). What
else remains
Hi!
I have dark thoughts today and just wanted to stir the already boiling
water a little :-). Sorry for doing that!
Certainly I did not mean it really seriously :-). Although I mean that
creating a user that can access our private data and network as well but
has no system privileges (as it
On Jan 11, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Schmidt András wrote:
In my opinion there is nothing that the root account can protect on
a single user handheld device.
Phones are normally used single user.
When an application gets the rights for that user then it can access
all personal information and all net
It doesn't seem like separate restricted users for different phone
system parts would be that helpful. The code still needs to be
secure. Say for example gsm gets compromised, then even with separate
users they still have full gsm access and can make phone calls. The
only advantage to isolating
Joseph Reeves wrote:
Hi Michael,
Hi Joseph,
Going back to your previous email first:
Fortunately we have a watchful community to catch our mistakes as
quickly as possible! Please continue to let me know if we make such
mistakes in the future.
Please understand that I wasn't trying to
Hi Jay,
Thanks for your enthusiasm.
Jay Vaughan wrote:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before
determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We
still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few
months. As always, we
Today I was in Wien airport which has wifi and is publicly accessible
(although you can't reach Internet). I was there with my laptop and I could
easily browse other devices nearby, and there were many. I also spotted some
iPhones which advertised their ssh service and some other devices which
adve
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before
determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We
still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few
Michael
> I'm pretty sure that the only "new" things we mentioned were new
> hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and
> the accelerometers.
ah yes, 3d! It'll be nice to have 3d renderings using something like
google earth ;)
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On Friday 11 January 2008 21:21:41 Michael Shiloh wrote:
> Hi Lon,
>
> Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
> apparently even more have appeared:
>
> http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
> http://takezero.net/3g-and-mobile-news/
On 1/11/08, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Lon,
>
> Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
> apparently even more have appeared:
>
> http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
> http://takezero.net/3g-and-mobile-news/han
On Jan 11, 2008 2:17 PM, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The comments are.. not so happy. :/
Yeah it didn't make a good impression to show the boot messages, and a
buggy crashing version of the UI. It really doesn't make sense, in
that the rest of us are getting better results with the
Unfortunately, opengl drivers for the SMedia chip will unlikely be
ready by the release of FreeRunner. Only XRender extension is
implemented by now. Also, GoogleEarth is closed-source and therefore
can not be recompiled for ARM.
P.S. Does anyone know whether we'll see accelerated XVideo extension
Hi Lon,
Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
apparently even more have appeared:
http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
http://takezero.net/3g-and-mobile-news/hands-on-with-fics-openmoko-powered-freerunner-2
http://youtube.co
Hi Brad,
I'm pretty sure that the only "new" things we mentioned were new
hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and
the accelerometers.
Fixed GSM firmware is not new because that's already included in GTA01
units (those that shipped after we got the fixed firmwar
On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Schmidt András wrote:
I assume that sudo prevents the harware to be bricked accidentally
by the user or by a userspace program. What I wanted to mean is that
protecting the user's data is more important than protecting the
device itself.
Sudo takes away securit
Warning: Totally frivolous post.
The picture on the news.com site, has the word "FreeRunner" written at
the bottom and a rather cool all black look (i.e. no transparent edge).
Is this photo a fake or is it a real photo of the new case?
http://linkpot.net/stenched/
I see that the demoed phones
Thanks, Michael. That was what I was looking for. Geek tech sites covering
you guys at the show.
I read the "not so happy" comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of
those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones
about the boot scroll being visible.
I would re
Hi Marcel, I think I have not been clear enough. I always thought you
intended the pic as a decoration for the wiki home page, and that I
thought not a good idea. Just putting files in the wiki, with a warning as
to size, is fine.
regards,
clare
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Marcel wrote:
The origin
On Jan 10, 2008 2:57 PM, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah. I wonder if the battery has deteriorated somehow (from the
> phone running and being plugged in to USB for days or weeks at a time,
> and being overcharged? but the power management chip should not
> overcharge it, right?),
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
I read the "not so happy" comments following the Gizmodo article.
A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.
I thought that was weird. The boot scroll is one of my fav
On Jan 11, 2008 11:26 PM, Ted Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
> > I read the "not so happy" comments following the Gizmodo article.
> > A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
> > repeated ones about the boot scroll bein
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