Hi All,
Thanks Nick for the spreadsheet - I guesstimated the postage at about $50 for
the bulk order and $20 for the individual units, based off past experience
shipping stuff from the US - didn't even think to use the Aus Post
calculator.
In other words, I trust your figures over mine :-)
Fo
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
I will do my best to show you more respect than you
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christ van Willegen wrote:
>
> > What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
> > possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
> > Mac, that would be nice to know...
> >
>
> I ha
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:55:45 + (GMT) David Samblas Martinez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
note the neo has enough ram to handle several at once with ease. EFL tends to
be significantly smaller than gtk in footprint memory-wise, and you have the
luxury of using several anyway. 128m of ram is hug
On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:32:54 +0930 Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Sh
Christ van Willegen wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Christ van Willegen wrote:
What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
Mac, that would be nice to know.
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
I will do my best to show you more r
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device is
> a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any reasonable
> OS, including OS-X.
>
> In fact, it's already been done:
>
> http://
On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:43:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> > ok. excuse me. but i did not show any disrespect.
> Calling what I say "babbling" seems disrespectful to me.
it's automatic - everyone gets it. i'm asutralian by nature. in my culture it
it good natured fun. i am
I wasn't sure if I should put it on the wiki or not as I was uncertain
about postage - but since you think they're alright, go for it!
-Nick
Chris Hogan wrote:
Hi All,
Thanks Nick for the spreadsheet - I guesstimated the postage at about $50 for
the bulk order and $20 for the individual unit
I concur wholeheartedly.
-Nick
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:32:54 +0930 Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
Carsten H
-[ Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:54:48PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler ]
> > And we are supposed to think that the lack of homogeneous look n feel is
> > a bonus ?
>
> it's up to you. you can uninstall whatever you don't like.
Of course, as I can code everything myself up to the kernel if I like to.
But
Karsten Ensinger wrote:
Sorry if I sound harsh, but I want to make a point.
You are right, that is an excellent excuse.
What part of "free" you have not understand?
Yes, very mature.
YOU are free to do whatever you want regarding using toolkits within
Openmoko. There WILL GTK as well as QT
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:43:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
in my culture it
it good natured fun.
And had it not been the first time I received a message for you, I might
have. Since the rest of the mail was quite dismissive as we
man cdce on a FreeBSD system...
On 5/16/08, Wilkinson, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
>
> >On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:22:12AM
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:37:51 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> > in my culture it
> > it good natured fun.
> And had it not been the first time I received a message for you, I might
> have. Since the rest of the mail was quite dismissive as well, it is
> very hard to figure ou
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:41:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> I have a problem with a mother that forces ME to love her children. This
> is not a free software volunteer doing what he wishes, if it's good it
> gets accepted, if not, then not. This is an engineer getting paid
Hi,
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
>
>>Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.
>
> What is "cdce" ?
cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeB
On Fri, May 16, 2008 3:59 pm, nickd wrote:
> That's strange. I'm in Brisbane and it worked out cheaper to buy in
> bulk. I estimated the postage as $70 for the bulk and $50 for individual
> (using AusPost's Int. parcel calculator). What was your
> postage/calculations? I've attached the worksheet I
On Friday 16 May 2008 07:19, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
> Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES
> ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to
> contact the sender
On Fri, 16 May 2008 13:43:31 +0200 AVee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Friday 16 May 2008 07:19, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>
> > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
> > Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES
> > ACT 1914. If y
Bastian Muck schrieb:
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That's very interresting. The site sais:
"Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and
Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any
location outside the United States."
Since when are
Maybe there's some good news today? Cheers,
Matt
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Subject: RE: Freerunner...when??
I gave a short update. Productio
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Of course,
you are right. I just amused about this sentence.
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Thanks für the two links. But at the time I have to scratch money
together for the freerunner. If I took part, I had to take away money
from the Freerunner budget. And this is more important for me at the
time. But next year everything is better ca
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
> >
> >>Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB et
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Christ van Willegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device
> is
> > a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about
On 16 May 2008, at 09:37, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:43:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
in my culture it
it good natured fun.
And had it not been the first time I received a message for you, I
might have. S
Andy Green wrote:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Greetings all,
> |
> | I wonder if it would be useful for devel purposes to have the OM
> | sourcetree imported into LXR (http://lxr.linux.no/) so folks can have an
> | quick method to access code via HTTP, which I have personally f
cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeBSD. To test it, you
can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page.
Last time I tested it, it worked without problems.
The cdce driver is also in OpenBSD (and presumably NetBSD); on Open at
least it is in the generic kernel so you
On 16 May 2008, at 02:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:05:23 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
Sorry me if this has been said in other post, but if
gtk is not the "default" graphical library what
library gonna be ETK the "offic
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeBSD. To test it, you
>>can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page.
>>Last time I tested it, it worked without problems.
>
> The cdce driver is also in OpenBSD
On Friday 16 May 2008 12:43, AVee wrote:
> On Friday 16 May 2008 07:19, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
> > Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the
> > CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in e
Hey folks.
Okey
I just wondering about one little thing steve.
Is the definition *10 pack* for only 10 persons, or can a 10 pack also
be over 10??
Example: Here in Norway we have started a group sale for Norway. And the
chance that we are going to be 10, 20, 30, etc. persons is slim.
So can
> I just wondering about one little thing steve.
> Is the definition *10 pack* for only 10 persons, or can a 10 pack also be
> over 10??
>
> Example: Here in Norway we have started a group sale for Norway. And the
> chance that we are going to be 10, 20, 30, etc. persons is slim.
> So can we buy a
>
> PS:
> I have searched the list ;-)
Not well enough ;)
The 10-packs are modulo-10, not 10+. You can get 10, 20, 30
not 11, 12, 13
--Steve
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Alexander Frøyseth <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey folks.
> Okey
>
> I just wondering about one little thi
Steven Kurylo skrev:
I just wondering about one little thing steve.
Is the definition *10 pack* for only 10 persons, or can a 10 pack also be
over 10??
Example: Here in Norway we have started a group sale for Norway. And the
chance that we are going to be 10, 20, 30, etc. persons is slim.
So ca
On 16 May 2008, at 06:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
...
Oh, so that's alright then, is it?
Do remind me how many people live in China. Last time I checked,
traditional Chinese would not accept left to right input, nor
simple key presses, nor went below a sixth of the world's population.
...
Looks like that ;)
too bad actually, if we are 19 the is 9 that can't be in the *gruop*
Steven Milburn skrev:
PS:
I have searched the list ;-)
Not well enough ;)
The 10-packs are modulo-10, not 10+. You can get 10, 20, 30
not 11, 12, 13
--Steve
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:
Correct, you'd get the discount on the group of 10, and have to pay full
price on the extra 9. Might be worth looking for people in neighboring
countries, etc., to group up?
Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
too bad actually, if we are 19 the is 9 that can't be in the *gruop*
_
On Fri, 16 May 2008 17:11:46 +0100
Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> noted:
> FIC is a new company
> and hasn't sold anything yet - in a business situation like this one
> watches one's costs and tries to get the best results one can
> without spending too much money.
> ...
> FIC will have
> _income
Stroller wrote:
Operating-system language support is obviously something that's
important to you, but if you take a look at the economic realities, I
think you'll agree that there's no reason for it to be a priority
right now (sorry).
According me this sentence explains a lot :).
It is very e
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 18:42 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
> It is very easy to speak, but nothing is so easy when it must be putted
> in pratice. We all would like to have a phone that support all the
> characters set and all the language and writing directions. But we must
> to don't lose contact
I was just wondering: we have seen the problems of encryptingcalls.
But what about decrypting them? Let*s say someone hasa method to call
you with some sort of encryption.. would it be possible to write a
decryption for it? Maybe public key?
--
My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:20 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct, you'd get the discount on the group of 10, and have to pay full
> price on the extra 9. Might be worth looking for people in neighboring
> countries, etc., to group up?
...or buy 20 and sell the last one via eBay...
Hi people,
could some one explain this to me,
Is the OM image that you get when you build qemu with the mokomakefile
fairly close to the system that will ship with the phone?
Will the next software update completely replace this with a different
interface?
solar.george
As far as I understand the logic and the version number: Yes. But I might be
wrong. :)
On Friday, 16. May 2008, George Brooke wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> could some one explain this to me,
>
> Is the OM image that you get when you build qemu with the mokomakefile
> fairly close to the system that wil
Here is my OE configuration:
OE Build Configuration:
BB_VERSION = "1.8.10"
OE_REVISION= "fd570626c1163ee4e85aa89f3de2cbe9f053"
TARGET_ARCH= "arm"
TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi"
MACHINE= "om-gta01"
DISTRO =
Mo Abrahams wrote:
I have a bad habit of always wanting the best of the best,
:) I think that with Freerunner you will have a lot to enjoy. A open
development show you all the bug/problem of a product. There is no
marketing office that say you that their product is the best!
I don't think Free
On Friday 16 May 2008, Thomas Szukala wrote:
> Bastian Muck schrieb:
> anyway back to Topic.
>
> the Dash is really an impressive gadget. Id like to have one or at least
> see some process in implementing routing with openstreetmap vector data.
Integrated into the Dash, or separate apps like pyro
Another bootable ISO to look at its trixbox
http://www.trixbox.com/products/trixbox-ce/features
Both make setting up an asterisk server very easy. They also run reasonably in
a virtual machine. trixbox has a few more bells and whistles; whether this is
good or bad is a matter of opinion, as is p
Christ van Willegen wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device is
a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any reasonable
OS, including OS-X.
In fact, it's already b
On Friday 16 May 2008 03:26:06 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 01:44:59 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > ... choose the toolkit you like. i really do not like the whole
> > > mindset of "we must program i
MartinG wrote:
On Friday 16 May 2008 03:26:06 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
yeah. this is actually the bigger problem we face in the longer run.
standardising data stores and access to them etc. :)
I think this is a important point that should be given some thought
before everyone starts hacking. Wo
So the group can allways make a signed agreement to divide the price of the
phone that if the final only one phone option is 399$ if the extra phone is
selled to 369,1$ anyone got a final discount of 39'9$ on every phone.
Christ van Willegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at
On Friday 16 May 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote:
> I was just wondering: we have seen the problems of encryptingcalls.
> But what about decrypting them? Let*s say someone hasa method to call
> you with some sort of encryption.. would it be possible to write a
> decryption for it? Maybe public key?
Dep
Al Johnson wrote:
On Friday 16 May 2008, Thomas Szukala wrote:
Bastian Muck schrieb:
anyway back to Topic.
the Dash is really an impressive gadget. Id like to have one or at least
see some process in implementing routing with openstreetmap vector data.
Integrated into the D
Heh,
Try to actually edit the config files and then use it :P
>From experience, asteriskNOW is my favorite, and the first platform
I am going to get the client to work with automatically.
(I am going to add an 'openmoko' option in the AsteriskGUI)
AsteriskNOW Also has Digital / Analog card supp
I have a number of programs that I use, and some that I wrote, for
professional security pen testing (with permission).
I was thinking of making a quick package for doing this automagically.
(btw, does the neo support wpa/wpa2?)
At the very least, it can cache enough requests on the wireless net
One more thing,
The Digium Asterisk-GUI was designed ALL clientside (It is ALL javascript).
Trixbox uses PHP/mysql/apache2, whereas the AsteriskGUI uses the builtin
Asterisk HTTP Server, and javascript files (because we believe that there
should never be unneeded load on the box that your phone c
Brandon Kruse wrote:
What do you guys think? Definitely taking the freerunner into a
completely different market, which I think would be pretty cool.
My $0.02 is that it'd be a handy security test, but also hits a bit of a
gray area where it could be abused too.
Is it based on airsnort or so
weplab/airsnort/sniff2air, and a couple other tools.
It is basically gluing a lot of the tools together for ease-of-use.
I agree that it is a bit of a grey area, maybe I could just have a EULA like
most of the programs involved have anyways.
-bk
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:16 PM, ian douglas <[EM
I'm sure I read in another post (or the wiki) that WPA was working at least.
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Brandon Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a number of programs that I use, and some that I wrote, for
> professional security pen testing (with permission).
>
> I was thinking of m
Thank You!
And it is the Atheros Chipset, so I will be able to do everything. :)
Thank you for the information!
I am going to start working on it now :)
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Vinc Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure I read in another post (or the wiki) that WPA was working a
Of course, it'd be pretty nice to just take your phone
and test your network's security level (which, of
course is too low if you're using WEP) But there are
two major problems, I see: First, I believe the
transmission power of the Freerunner will be kind of
limited, compared to, say an mobile Wifi
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) *babbled* {:)}:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:32:54 +0930 Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu,
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Brandon Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank You!
>
> And it is the Atheros Chipset, so I will be able to do everything. :)
There is an email from Andy Green in March saying says we don't have
monitor mode, which I think means no promiscuous mode.
I see this now, after reading more in depth about the driver itself.
This could be somewhat of a setback :P
I will have to do some more research, maybe see if they plan on adding
that in the future sometime.
Thanks for the input,
-bk
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTE
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Hi guys
This could be just 'hoping for a desired outcome', but I reckon that there is
no duty payable on
phones imported into Australia. When I emailed Australian Customs (trying to
get them to have
sympathy on the bulk order thing), they only ment
Hey
> There is an email from Andy Green in March saying says we don't have
> monitor mode, which I think means no promiscuous mode.
It would also be handy to get master mode. I can't see if ar6k will
work in master mode, but a minipci ar5413 in my laptop at least used
to do this using the closed
Hi Aus people,
Neil: the info I got was referred to me by another Brisbane guy who pointed
me to the "Buying over the internet page" [1] which is where I got the 5%
from (check the table down the bottom).
Dennis: I did the UPS one and it came to around $170 which is drastically
different from $70
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