Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Well were all those 'never see them' people linux users and interested in openmoko? Haha we might just all be gifted people ! :D On 6/7/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:30:43 +0100 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >> >> On 6 Jun 2008, a

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

Hello I exactly didn't get your point. Do you want to say about the final application interface or something else. Thanks... On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So wouldn't it be a main problem if we change the main applications like > the Dialer, the contact

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

> > > > it will be better - of course. what' i'm baffled about is why all of a > sudden > here a lot of "excellent vision gifted" people turn up, whereas in real > life i > never see them... :) > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Its just that the "excellent vision gif

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

Hello Esben Stien Although I had a look at sphinx but at this moment I am not very sure that how much will i reuse it since with their very little documentation, the source code is not so comprehensible. However, I am trying to get a hand on it and use its libraries wherever possible. On Fri, Ju

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:30:43 +0100 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > On 6 Jun 2008, at 23:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> ... > >> Let's reverse the question - would you reduce the resolution of your > >> desktop system? > >> What do you currently have? 1024*1280 or more?

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

*In theory*, a manufacturer could make replacement, er... *upgrade*, cases, built to take some off the shelf stylus such as those found in some other device, like a Palm for instance. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see the whole 'stylus holder' as a sim

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:36:10 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't > been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.) > The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:- > 1. Everybody needs a

Re: resolution preferences??

When printer technology went from dot-matrix to laser-print (and later, ink-jet) there was a substantial qualitative difference in the visual appearance and quality of the output. One of the most attractive features of the Neo, for me, is the corresponding jump in display resolution. I've been wa

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On 6 Jun 2008, at 23:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> ... >> Let's reverse the question - would you reduce the resolution of your >> desktop system? >> What do you currently have? 1024*1280 or more? >> You can still do everything like writing software, e-mail, web >> browsing, gaming

RE: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

Just give thanks that the GTA01 and 02 cases have a hole in them. It is better to tie the stylus to the phone than have to remember to always park it rather than put it down. And with good resolution you can make really good use of the screen and stylus if you dont make everything on the screen big

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

On 6/5/08, Ken Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) >> since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer >> pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossin

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

If I beg and plead, would you post these on youtube or some such thing? :-) On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Mohamed Hazem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aren't we getting the videos of the device crash tests ? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list >

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

I see the whole 'stylus holder' as a simple manufacturing choice. Just like we choose the Freerunner based on 850/1800/1900 frequencies or 900/1800/1900 frequencies, having a choice of "I want a case with a stylus holder" or not, could be a simple case choice when ordering. So design a case wit

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

Aren't we getting the videos of the device crash tests ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

On 6/6/08, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stroller you crack me up. (vi rules.) > > We need a religious war between the Digitii, the Stylii, and Quertii. > > Or three products? > > Rant away. Your views are always welcome. Stylus:) I hate those big keypads and I need to use the terminal a lot

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:18:43 +0200 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi, > (I try to cut out some citations). > > > this is my dilemma. win with dpi and sharpness, but then lose in > > smoothness/speed. i lean a bit to- smoothness myself, but i want to > > hear the > > "p

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.) The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:- 1. Everybody needs a VGA 2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU 3. We should have faster C

Re: resolution preferences??

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > no one ever said the freerunner would have anything but vga. i'm asking in > general as we will make decisions of vga vs qvga vs god knows what other > resolutions, screen sizes etc. over time in future devices. i want to know > what > people think! :) >

RE: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

Stroller you crack me up. (vi rules.) We need a religious war between the Digitii, the Stylii, and Quertii. Or three products? Rant away. Your views are always welcome. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stroller Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2

RE: Cleared to start Mass production #2

Yes. However please note that there are painful steps ahead. None of them technical, all logistical. Bake parts, mount parts, solder parts, test assemblies, screw plastic parts together, Box, truck, ship. Plenty of opportunity for delay. No time happy dance yet, but a big hurdle has been passe

RE: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

Ya, when I did MP3 we just took out the built in FM receiver for the EU version. All that said, I'm interested in notions of final assembly "in region" for a varity of reasons. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller Se

RE: Cleared to start Mass production

I'm trying to get the fremont thing figured out. It isnt Frys. It's a wharehouse. So I will Be asking a very patient and very very nice person to do me favor. You're lucky, I'm charming, so we have a shot At getting it done. Ship date will depend on when I get a slot. We passed preMP. That means

RE: Cleared to start Mass production

Ya. You and me both. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Häder Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:48 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Cleared to start Mass production Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote:

RE: Cleared to start Mass production

It's way better than a triple Lindy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUxUiMyt70&feature=related -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:35 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subj

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

I couldn't find predefined protector[s] for neo (not really a surprise, really). So, how to obtain one of these for Freerunner? We have CAD files, so I don't see problems with measuring case or screen. What should I (or we) do to obtain screen protector (or better -- full body one)? _

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

Hi, On Friday, 6. June 2008, Yorick Matthys wrote: > Hi, > > I only heard of them today, but they look very promissing: > - life long warranty > - free shipping worldwide Looks like scratch protection. :) But yet another $25 to think about. Okay, I order one for my FreeRunner. > > You can find

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

I've used them on other devices. Very durable, and easy to install if you're careful. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Yorick Matthys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I only heard of them today, but they look very promissing: > - life long warranty > - free shipping worldwide > > You can fi

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), > so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it > should be an option when you buy If I got that right, we "just need to tune some of the LC

Re: resolution preferences??

> i'm asking the question if going down to a (relatively) low resolution screen > would be an ok compromise. > I would not be remotely as interested in a device which is not, at least, VGA. As another person mentioned qvga is too small to do any type of web browsing effectively. I currently u

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

COOL I want one on my neo :D Alexander Frøyseth Yorick Matthys skrev: Hi, I only heard of them today, but they look very promissing: - life long warranty - free shipping worldwide You can find more info on http://www.zagg.com/ If you search the internet it seems almost nobody regrets having

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Samsung also seems to have no more ((partially) useful) docs about the s3c series online. Why not switch to freescale, and get solid arm11 SoCs with more power then even the samsung pedants and million times used in smartphones of all vendors? They even have hundreds of sites in documents freely av

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :( > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the > extra CPU speed in 02. I

QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > but as i said - i'm just looking to see what people think. and why. > i'm very interested in "why". why is a vga screen so important? can > you REALLY see all the pixels? can you REALLY read an 8-point font on > that screen at that size? (be honest!)

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

On 06/06/08 03:49:22, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:27 -0700 Robert Taylor > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > at vga.. forget mame and games - they will be doing fullscreen > updates. at vga... no chance (of any decent framerate). if you don't > believe me... try it when y

Re: resolution preferences??

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:02:14 -0400 "Steven Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > >> This question is probably just because I misunderstood something you said >> before, but I'll ask anyway :) >> >> If it is acceptable to use QVGA, couldn't that basi

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it actually slower? Why can that be? >>i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/ Hmm, so we have product here which limits itself to be run at a speed only at which it would

Re: resolution preferences??

Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: > On 6/6/08, NeilBrown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> >> >>> we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just >>> change the >>> output at the lcd controller level. but it is a wa

Re: resolution preferences??

How about keeping VGA, and making the screen bigger then 2.8"? Just an idea, Federico On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:16:15 +1000 (EST) "NeilBrown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >> On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm,

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > note - qvga really does look blocky on the 2.8" vga It's looking blocky starting at 2"... Take a look at the newer Nokia phones (E- and N-Series), and you'll even notice it on _pictures_ of their dis

Re: resolution preferences??

On 06/06/08 06:39:05, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just > change the output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to > pay for a vga screen when we won't use it. also it does look > "blocky". it isn't about glamo or not - it's

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Hi, (I try to cut out some citations). > this is my dilemma. win with dpi and sharpness, but then lose in > smoothness/speed. i lean a bit to- smoothness myself, but i want to > hear the > "peanut gallery" so to speak :) (please don't take offence! i'm > seriously about > listening that's why

Re: Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

> Hi all, > > According to previous mail in community list, there is a perl version of > AGPS on-line implementation. But it requires to install many packages. > The following is the C implementation. > Could you give me a pointer to the message or a link to the perl one. I did not find neither th

InvisibleShield screen protectors

Hi, I only heard of them today, but they look very promissing: - life long warranty - free shipping worldwide You can find more info on http://www.zagg.com/ If you search the internet it seems almost nobody regrets having bought one. Are there other persons interested in buying one? (I already

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Friday 06 June 2008 13:15:10 Tom Cooksey wrote: > binary blob driver. Who knows, maybe samsung will even let you write an > open source driver? (Don't think the s3c6410's 3D core is a PowerVR, seems > to be something different?) I doubt it; IIRC they just removed a lot of specs from their site

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :( It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software bottleneck? Rahul

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:38:46 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > >> Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed >> to hold a stylus? >> Thinking about this a bit, drop the stylus and include a slide out (from underneath) a qwerty keyboard. I have MANY MANY devic

Linux PDA with wifi?

Ian Stephen ian at tradeswest.ca wrote Sun Jun 1 05:54:23 CEST 2008 >On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote: >> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery >> life, any suggestions? > >I've got a Nokia N800. Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some >things 800 doesn't. > >

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On 6/6/08, Tom Cooksey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is > > underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then > > instead. > > I'd like to wave the

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:15:10 +0200 Tom Cooksey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is > > underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then > > instead

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:34:30 +0200 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Am 06.06.2008 um 09:45 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman): > Yes, slowness is the most critical complaint. But how should I > convince anyone > to buy an OM if I also have a QVGA device which feels

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:08:17 +0200 Jens Fursund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > So it actually slower? Why can that be? i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/ > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi"<[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:17:46 +0100 "Justyn Butler" babbled: > I forgot to mention that not only is WVGA (800 x 480) the resolution > of Nokia's N800 series internet tablets but also the Asus Eee PC > (original), which is a tiny laptop for web browsing and has surprised > the world by selling so we

Re: resolution preferences??

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:16:15 +1000 (EST) "NeilBrown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just > > change the > > output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a

Re: resolution preferences??

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:17:40 +0530 "rakshat hooja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM, NeoSleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not > > > > buy it ! > > > > > But the freerunner does have a VGA sc

Re: resolution preferences??

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:54:34 + (GMT) David Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten, > What app/situation you have in mind when you affirm than nobody can detect a > the difference at half resolution? I have in mind a web browser a half > resolution means double the scroll bars,

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:08:41 + (GMT) David Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten, > There is any posibility to change the screen resolution without reboot? > If we can do so we can dinamically change it to got the best of two worlds, a > high resolution for almost statical scr

Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

On 6/6/08, Michele Renda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilja O. wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Christoph Pulster <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Hello community, > > > > may I add that I have the debug board now in my shop: > > http://www.puls

Re: resolution preferences??

On 6/6/08, NeilBrown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just > > change the > > output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a vga > > screen > > when we won't u

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

lol @steve : thx for the good news André Gaul schrieb: > steffen wrote: > >> > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass >> > Production (that means running the SMT line without stopping to >> > check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. >> >> hmm...so whe

Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

Hi, I don't think that is an error: also if Openmoko sell it at 99$, it must to arrive in europe, than you must to add VAT (20% ?) that you have to add environmental taxes, and to add warranty (1 year at least). So is very possible it cost so. And in every case it cost less that all the debug b

Re: USA, East coast groupe order

I register myself on the NY list, and we will see what happens when we get the final count and the moko is out :) On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Gilbert Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like a good plan to me > > Paul Buede wrote: > > Count me in. > > > > Feydreva wrote: > >> It see

Re: Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 13:30 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: > Matt, that's great, thanks, will compile now. > > I've just emailed u-blox support requesting a username and password; > hopefully I'll be able to test this soon enough (just need to find a > reasonable way of getting GPRS to work now...)

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

I still think that the Cowon iAudio D2 has the best solution: guitar-pick-like stylus, attached by a short cord at a loop in the housing. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 06 June 2008 00:34, Feydreva wrote: > > a stylus is a another thing to loose

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

To be honest: the VGA screen is the only outstanding piece of hardware in the Neo. I owned many mobiles, I've seen screens in all classes (ok, I never was in japan, so I don't know what these people have) and I really think, that QVGA is _no_ option at all for a phone with a strong focus on apps an

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Friday 06 June 2008 13:11:32 Justyn Butler wrote: > To touch on Gabriel's comment, WVGA would be the same resolution as > the Nokia N800 series but in a more compact screen. > With that resolution perhaps the GTA03 would start tapping into other > unexpected markets - for example some of the pe

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:38:46 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed > to hold a stylus? +1 Just having one does not mean OM has to use it. Frankly, I'm not really convinced by the whole finger keyboard stuff. signature.asc Description: This is a digit

Re: GPS <--> AGPS

Joseph > That's what I, as an archaeologist, want D-GPS for :) gpsd has a mode where it listens to both the gps and an online dgps source and produces corrected output. See the manpage for gpsd. I think you have to have the unit online continuously. -- Brad

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Friday 06 June 2008 09:09:55 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the > Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish that OM > survives... Agreed. The display is the ONLY thing in GTA02 hardware that is remotely current (In fa

Re: Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

Matt, that's great, thanks, will compile now. I've just emailed u-blox support requesting a username and password; hopefully I'll be able to test this soon enough (just need to find a reasonable way of getting GPRS to work now...) Cheers, Joseph On 06/06/2008, matt_hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

steffen wrote: > > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass > > Production (that means running the SMT line without stopping to > > check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. > > hmm...so where is GNU/Hurd? ... :D As far as I know GNU/Hurd will be released

Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Christoph Pulster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello community, > > may I add that I have the debug board now in my shop: > http://www.pulster.de/engl/ > index.html?d__omdebug__Openmoko_Debug_Board_Version_v3747.htm > > It's version 3 belonging to GTA02 Freerunner..

Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

Hi all, According to previous mail in community list, there is a perl version of AGPS on-line implementation. But it requires to install many packages. The following is the C implementation. http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/matt_hsu/agps-online/ Here is a brief script to run this application:

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008/6/5 steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass > > Production (that means running the SMT line without stopping to > > check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. > > hmm...so where is GNU/Hurd? ... :D > Ask RMS, but it appe

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

I forgot to mention that not only is WVGA (800 x 480) the resolution of Nokia's N800 series internet tablets but also the Asus Eee PC (original), which is a tiny laptop for web browsing and has surprised the world by selling so well. Drool over this engadget post from 2006 about a 2.9 inch WVGA di

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is > underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then > instead. I'd like to wave the little "please can we have a decent SoC" flag again. Yes, t

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

All of the geeks that I have shown my GTA01 to have been in awe of it's high-res VGA screen. Whatever direction OpenMoko wants to go in, I'm sure geeks will always be a large part of their target demographic. To touch on Gabriel's comment, WVGA would be the same resolution as the Nokia N800 series

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

YAY! Finally, we are arriving... -Marcel Am Donnerstag 05 Juni 2008 17:12:42 schrieb steve: > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( > that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two > seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. > > > > > > >

Re: resolution preferences??

> > Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not > > buy it ! > > > > For me, VGA is a must have feature. As other said, there are plenty of QVGA > > devices. I don't want one of them because of the resolution. > > I have a Dell Axim X5 and I'm really sad about the QVGA

Re: resolution preferences??

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM, NeoSleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not > > buy it ! > > But the freerunner does have a VGA screen and as per information in Steve's email mass production is about to start/ has started. The

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

But we are able to do to hardware scaling, isn't it? afaik in the long video play resolution thread this were mentioned (maybe there are differents scale concepts) --- El vie, 6/6/08, Stefano Cavallari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > De: Stefano Cavallari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: Re: Yummy

Re: resolution preferences??

On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just > change the > output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a vga > screen > when we won't use it. also it does look "blocky". it isn't about glamo or >

Re: resolution preferences??

Hi Carsten, I'd argue for a VGA screen for three reasons: On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:39:05 +0200, Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just > change the output at the lcd controller level. 1. Greater flexibility. I can use

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

So it actually slower? Why can that be? Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >> > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, >> >>> it's really nice, quite slow on the neo

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

>From what I remember of the of the discussions of video playback on the freerunner on the list, plans are there to offer default video playback in QVGA mode in the polished software as it is more practical on the current hardware. Also I may be wrong on this but it should not be impossible for an

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

X certainly can do that, but AFAIK without specs you can't do hardware scaling, so using anything different than the screen resolution would be slow and/or use too much cpu thus drain the battery. On Friday 06 June 2008 09:08:41 David Samblas Martinez wrote: > Carsten, > There is any posibility

Re: GPS <--> AGPS

> Aaaaha, I seen it being used for all sorts of archeology and buildings > construction purposes. That's what I, as an archaeologist, want D-GPS for :) With AGPS for quicker acquisition time (I'm thinking this will be particularly useful when your phone's in your pocket in suspend mode - turn it

Re: resolution preferences??

Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not buy it ! For me, VGA is a must have feature. As other said, there are plenty of QVGA devices. I don't want one of them because of the resolution. I have a Dell Axim X5 and I'm really sad about the QVGA resolution (in

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

Am 06.06.2008 um 09:45 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman): > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:09:55 +0200 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > > babbled: > >> IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the >> Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish tha

Re: resolution preferences??

Carsten, What app/situation you have in mind when you affirm than nobody can detect a the difference at half resolution? I have in mind a web browser a half resolution means double the scroll bars, I have in mind a pdf doc viewer, half resolution means I have to zoom in more the document to be

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

On Friday 06 June 2008 00:34, Feydreva wrote: > a stylus is a another thing to loose... I do NOT want to be Dependant on a > stylus... > perhaps you could tie yours to a piece of string and then attach it to the loop. I'd also recommend this for your mittens. -- Andy / ScaredyCat pgp6txpzhq

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:58:08 +0200 "Federico Lorenzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: you can just drive it at qvga... > Boo, the Glamo seems to kill everything :( > > On 6/6/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:27 -0700 Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PR

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:09:55 +0200 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the > Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish that OM > survives... why would it be the end? the majority of phones in the no

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

I agree with you that the VGA screen is very important for marketing the Freerunner - other comparable smartphones dont have that feature and are certainly no where near in terms of DPI. I am also assuming that OM wont discontinue the GTA02 (Freerunner) when GTA03 comes out. So mass market customer

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish that OM survives... There are plenty of QVGA designs out there and I even have an offer and a sample of a Linux smartphone at half the price of the OM. It works, has 90g

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

Carsten, There is any posibility to change the screen resolution without reboot? If we can do so we can dinamically change it to got the best of two worlds, a high resolution for almost statical screens to webbrowsing, doc editing, picture viewing, an a low resolution to mame, video playback(?),

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

"steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( > that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two > seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. *pops the Champagne* Thanks Openmoko! Regards, -- Lucas Bonnet B

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

Well, it isn't that slow (on GTA01). In fact it feels really responsive, just the launcher shows some laggs. I guess it should be able to fix this by more agressive caching, as the problem seems to be, that the neo loads the images/icons pretty slow. The other problem is the starting of other apps

Re: resolution preferences??

The difference between the VGA screen of the Neo and the QVGA screens I have are very clear to me (with the VGA being clearly superior) when kept side by side. But for most of my activities including reading long emails the QVGA resolution is enough. So unless we have the processing power to run at