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2007-06-08 Thread Ian Darwin
please point your browsers to http://de.sun.com/ I am not sure how long it will be there - but to see is JavaFX Mobile - with a (slightly trimmed?) Neo1973 and you can see the FIC-Logo. I think the Neo _has_ some attention. The hardware in that demo is almost incidental. JavaFX Mobile is a

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-06 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 07:15:32 el jefe delito wrote: > coming and they should consider saving their six hundred dollars to buy our > better, less-expensive phone. I do doubt that Neo's market coincides with the iPhone market very much... Initially at the very least. pgpeIxHaXZ0sD.pgp Descr

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread el jefe delito
ok, ok, i get it. No one else thinks its a good idea to promote the Neo1973 yet (well, no one has chimed in to agree with me) i guess we can save the hype until we have a real product, but i think that we're missing a big opportunity to let people know that something great is coming and they sho

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Yes, so, let's start with a SWOT Analysis[1] for OpenMoko platform (or devices): * Strengths: attributes of the platform that are helpful to achieving the objective. - It is Open - It is from a devices expert company * Weaknesses: attributes of the platform that are harmful to achieving the object

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.06.2007 um 18:27 schrieb el jefe delito: Regardless of where the hardware and software are right now, I would imagine that they both will be further along come release date. But, outside of this community and the few people that remember us telling them about the FIC Neo1973 and the

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Danijel Orsolic
I also agree that we need to wait with the actual hype and public marketing efforts. What I meant was to simply start quiet preparations and discussions for when the time comes to start promoting. Best Danijel On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:04:50 -0600 "mathew davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thi

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Duncan Hudson
mathew davis wrote: I think we need to wait. When the neo1973 has matured a bit and has worked out the mojor kinks it will generate attention on it's own, which we can then strengthen. But right now I don't think it would really have an impact. We don't know the final release date, the soft

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday! / magazine coverage

2007-06-05 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
> Steven ** wrote: >> As far as mainstream press, check out June 2007 issue >> of Popular Science >> magazine. The Neo is one of "29 Hot Products". > > FYI, > > the phase 1 Neo1973 will also be featured briefly in > upcoming german > c't magazine 13/2007, page 28. > > -Sven If I recall corre

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Rory McCann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent THIERY said the following on 05/06/07 00:33: > I mean, a neo looks like a great device, but so far it's mainly a > regular "smartphone"; if the project continues to improve, one day the > neo will do what linux is best at: full network integrat

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-05 Thread Sven Neuhaus
Steven ** wrote: > As far as mainstream press, check out June 2007 issue of Popular Science > magazine. The Neo is one of "29 Hot Products". FYI, the phase 1 Neo1973 will also be featured briefly in upcoming german c't magazine 13/2007, page 28. -Sven __

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Florent THIERY
Indeed, people want features, not only ideology. The ideology part is a great aspect for free software advocates, but is a mainstream consumer aware of it, would he care at first sight ? No; a lot of people buy fair trade coffee if it has a good taste (apart of the little taste of freedom :p). I

RE: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Jon Phillips
o: Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; el jefe delito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday! Yep my thoughts exactly - wait until the product is out before trying to hype it any more. Enough people kno

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread mathew davis
I think we need to wait. When the neo1973 has matured a bit and has worked out the mojor kinks it will generate attention on it's own, which we can then strengthen. But right now I don't think it would really have an impact. We don't know the final release date, the software on it which is the

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Danijel Orsolic
I'll chip in here for once. :) I agree with what some have said that we should better wait before the phone is actually a finished product we can point to (including a web site or store where people can easily buy it). However in the meantime I think we should think about the marketing subject,

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Rory McCann
Jim Thompson wrote: > Comments don't sell phones, applications do. > > Once we have functional hardware, we can create better software, and the > combination of these is far better than any amount of hype or PR. Agreed. The iPhone will be available in about a month with a selection of polished an

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Steven **
As far as mainstream press, check out June 2007 issue of Popular Science magazine. The Neo is one of "29 Hot Products". -Steven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Frankly, creating buzz about the product doesn't really seem like our job... I'm just looking forward to getting one so I can get to serious work on it! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/l

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.06.2007 um 18:27 schrieb el jefe delito: Regardless of where the hardware and software are right now, I would imagine that they both will be further along come release date. But, outside of this community and the few people that remember us telling them about the FIC Neo1973 and the

RE: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Dean Collins
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson > Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 2:43 PM > To: el jefe delito > Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday! > > el jefe delito wrote

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Thompson
el jefe delito wrote: I hope that we can start to create some buzz about this product! Being open, being able to work with multiple service providers, being unlocked, being cheaper, being higher-resolution... all of these are benefits that we must PROMOTE. The quicker we can post on an artic

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Chris Fazekas
I do work for the fellow who own's http://www.scottevest.com, and I know he has a personal contact with the guy named... Leo Laporte from http://www.twit.tv/ Maybe if I can get my hands on a demo of the Neo1973, I can get it on TV? Thoughts? Contact me directly if needed. Cheers, Chris On 6/

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread Varga-Háli Dániel
Hey! I am a Hungarian exchange student right now and I think I could help you by sending in a couple articles about OpenMoko to some Hungarian tech papers. Hungary (in general) is very opened to Linux (go to Google Trends and search for Linux) and it has got a strong Un*x like OS lover community.

Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!

2007-06-04 Thread el jefe delito
Just mentioning the Neo1973's merits and existence will open many eyes. People read Apple news (and the buzz which passes for news), and then read comments; not a lot of non-tech people read news about an unknown product (or less-visible company, FIC). I agree that we can be better heard in the f